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Honestly, if u are in the Zachary area, u should be able to pick up the Baton Rouge simulcast site with the antenna that came with your scanner with no problem at all. An external antenna is way overkill for what you want. I get the BTR simulcast with no problem in the middle of Livingston parish. If u just are wanting local stuff (Zachary, SO north) I would use the pride tower which is actually pretty close to you. I have a friend in Pride and I receive the BTR simulcast just fine with the 700/800 MHz postable antenna directly on my radio.
 

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I agree about the antenna being overkill and I only bought it because I was stumped as to why I am not receiving anything. As for the Pride tower...Is that Baywood? So frustrated, I see the scanner receiving data but no audio. Every 30 minutes or so I hear EBSO North talking clear as a bell, then nothing again for an hour. I have yet to hear anything but that talk group but the fact that I hear them makes me think I must have it set up correctly. Why would I only hear them sporadically like that? Why can't I pick up everything? Again, so frustrating.
 

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Not sure what else to do. To eliminate any possible multipath distortion I deleted the BR Simulcast system and am now focused only on the Baywood tower which is approx 5 miles from my house. When I "hold" on the control channel, I get the correct system ID for the Baywood tower and I get a pretty constant "DAT" displayed, which I assume is the traffic I am NOT hearing. I also setup my Yagi antenna outside and have tried rotating it in every cardinal direction, with no improvement. Again, about every hour or so I get a perfectly clear transmission on one of the TGID's that I have set up, then silence again. I have tried adjusting the squelch as well as the other parameters such as P25 hold time etc. I even have tried a second identical scanner just in case something was broken with mine. Still nothing. It just shouldn't be this hard. What the hell am I missing?
 

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Thought....Is it possible that the talk groups I wish to listen to are encrypted? Ex. Zachary PD TGID 17373 I get a "DAT" indication yet no audio.
 

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I agree about the antenna being overkill and I only bought it because I was stumped as to why I am not receiving anything. As for the Pride tower...Is that Baywood? So frustrated, I see the scanner receiving data but no audio. Every 30 minutes or so I hear EBSO North talking clear as a bell, then nothing again for an hour. I have yet to hear anything but that talk group but the fact that I hear them makes me think I must have it set up correctly. Why would I only hear them sporadically like that? Why can't I pick up everything? Again, so frustrating.

The Pride tower IS the Baywood tower. It's just that whoever named the towers doesn't seem to know where Baywood and Pride are. The "Baywood" tower is on Jackson Rd in Pride. I don't where you live in Zachary so It's hard to tell how far you live from it. You could live in Pride with a Zachary zip code addresses are crazy. The "Baywood" tower is 9 air miles from the Zachary Walmart to give you a idea of how far from Zachary. You should probably be getting the Jackson tower it's 12 miles from Walmart.

My ham club has two ham repeaters on the Jackson tower along with the 700 stuff. We have a 6 meter repeater at close to 400' on it and a 2 meter repeater at about 350'
 
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Honestly, if u are in the Zachary area, u should be able to pick up the Baton Rouge simulcast site with the antenna that came with your scanner with no problem at all. An external antenna is way overkill for what you want. I get the BTR simulcast with no problem in the middle of Livingston parish. If u just are wanting local stuff (Zachary, SO north) I would use the pride tower which is actually pretty close to you. I have a friend in Pride and I receive the BTR simulcast just fine with the 700/800 MHz postable antenna directly on my radio.

I live in downtown area of Pride and all I use is the rubber duck in my truck or home. I have a 700 ant for my truck but I took it off and use that mount for 450 stuff and just use the duck in the truck I have probably about 8 or 10 towers programmed so I don't pay much attention to which one I'm hearing
 

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I misplaced my rubber duck antenna but have one coming today. I just don't understand why my radio is not decoding the audio. I am receiving data constantly but rarely hear any audio. I have tried everything I know to do but no joy. I live about half a mile NW of the Zachary Walmart so I'm getting a good signal from the Pride tower. Any ideas?
 

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Need help setting up scanner-Band Plan

The only setting I haven't messed with is editing the Band Plan. There are two set up already as follows:
Plan 0:851.00625/6.25
Plan 1:762.00625/6.25

Does this look to be correct?
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The only setting I haven't messed with is editing the Band Plan. There are two set up already as follows:
Plan 0:851.00625/6.25
Plan 1:762.00625/6.25

Does this look to be correct?
Thanks

I've never messed with Blan Plan don't even know what it is. The only 700 mhz scanners I've messed with are Radio Shack. I don't know anything about the other brands
 

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I misplaced my rubber duck antenna but have one coming today. I just don't understand why my radio is not decoding the audio. I am receiving data constantly but rarely hear any audio. I have tried everything I know to do but no joy. I live about half a mile NW of the Zachary Walmart so I'm getting a good signal from the Pride tower. Any ideas?


Are you only listening to the Pride tower? I have a buddy that lives one block off 19 close to you behind All Pro Tint. I know he listens to Zachary PD I don't know what scanner he has I'll ask him.
 

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Please do! I am at the point where I'm ready to buy a new scanner but I want to make sure I can hear Zachary if I do. If you could find out what scanner and confirm he still can hear Zachary, PD, please let me know!

Thanks!!!

Are you only listening to the Pride tower? I have a buddy that lives one block off 19 close to you behind All Pro Tint. I know he listens to Zachary PD I don't know what scanner he has I'll ask him.
 

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Hey guys,
I appreciate all of the help, but at this point, I'm thinking this scanner just isn't capable of receiving this system for whatever reason. Unless there are any issues I should know about, or better scanners for the money, I'm probably going to get a SDS100 and quit fighting this thing. BTW, I now have two BCD396T's for sale....cheap! lol
 

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Hey guys,
I appreciate all of the help, but at this point, I'm thinking this scanner just isn't capable of receiving this system for whatever reason. Unless there are any issues I should know about, or better scanners for the money, I'm probably going to get a SDS100 and quit fighting this thing. BTW, I now have two BCD396T's for sale....cheap! lol
The 396T is capable of monitoring a P25 Phase I system. You don't need to enter a band plan because on a P25 system, the scanner gets the needed information from the control channel data.

However, I suspect that the reason you are still having troubles may be simulcast distortion. That would be on the Baton Rouge Simulcast site, Did you try aiming your directional antenna at the Central site, to your southeast? That would be your best choice as far as trying to reduce simulcast issues on the Baton Rouge Simulcast frequencies.

The Baywood (Pride?) site is not simulcast, and might work better for you since it is in the opposite direction from the multiple towers of the simulcast layer. I would give it a shot, both with a rubber duck antenna, and also with your directional one. I would also suggest that, if you still cannot monitor Baywood from home, that you take a drive closer to it, and see if that helps. It would at least verify that your scanner could hear it if there was enough clear signal. If there are cell sites very close to your home, that may be somewhat overloading the scanner, and impacting your reception. The Uniden scanners are not bulletproof as far as overload, but are somewhat better in handling it than the GRE/Whistler scanners.

The SDS100 is better on simulcast than the 396T, 396XT, or the 325P2 (the Phase II replacement for the 396XT). While the 436HO & 536HP work well for me, I do not have severe simulcast issues at my home location. My SDS100 works well in some of the problem areas for simulcast problems in the DFW Metro area. I have not checked all of them, but have tried to spot check some of the places in areas where I frequently visit.
 

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Thanks Steve, I appreciate all of your help. Good to hear that about the SDS100. I think that is the path I am going to go down. I tried all of what you suggested and more with the 396T and it just flat out won't work here.
 

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When I "hold" on the control channel, I get the correct system ID for the Baywood tower and I get a pretty constant "DAT" displayed, which I assume is the traffic I am NOT hearing.

This may be the problem, with my 396t monitoring my local P25 p1 site it also constantly show DAT. That just means the scanner is receiving and decoding the control channel. I think you're thinking that because its says DAT that there should be traffic but that's not the case.

You could try making a new site with only the control channel in it and push the scan button until it says ID Search. Then everything you hear you would know came from that site and you would be able to see the talkgroups numbers.
 

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Thanks, but I've tried that and I still only hear maybe one transmission an hour. If I "Hold" on the CC, I see each of my programmed talk groups show up whenever there is traffic but I still get no audio. If I drive around town, I seem to get slightly more activity, but not nearly what I should be getting. At this point I have given up and I just ordered an SDS100. I have 2 BCD396T's for sale cheap, though, if you are interested! lol
 

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Thanks, but I've tried that and I still only hear maybe one transmission an hour. If I "Hold" on the CC, I see each of my programmed talk groups show up whenever there is traffic but I still get no audio. If I drive around town, I seem to get slightly more activity, but not nearly what I should be getting. At this point I have given up and I just ordered an SDS100. I have 2 BCD396T's for sale cheap, though, if you are interested! lol

I'll ask my buddy in Zachary tomorrow what he's listening to ZPD and ZFD on. Don't get rid of your 396 yet.
 

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I'm very interested to see what you find out from your buddy. When I drove by the Pride tower today the Zachary talk group broke in a couple of times but never as often or as clear as EBRSO. As soon as I I got a couple of miles away, I quit hearing anything. New scanner on the way!

I'll ask my buddy in Zachary tomorrow what he's listening to ZPD and ZFD on. Don't get rid of your 396 yet.
 

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I'm very interested to see what you find out from your buddy. When I drove by the Pride tower today the Zachary talk group broke in a couple of times but never as often or as clear as EBRSO. As soon as I I got a couple of miles away, I quit hearing anything. New scanner on the way!

I haven't heard from my buddy yet. I got out a handheld with a stock rubber duck and listened to Zachary PD and Acadian I have them both on the same bank as us old scanner people used to say. I heard them both on the Baywood really Pride tower. I'm only about 1.5 miles from that tower.
So today I took the Pride tower out of the scanner and heard ZPD and Acadian talking on the Jackson tower. I'm 12 miles from the Jackson tower and you are probably about 11 miles from the Jackson tower.

If you want to drive up to check out the Jackson tower go north on La 19 to La 10 turn left and go towards Jackson. Close to 2 miles you'll see two towers on your left back in a field one taller than the other. There is nothing on the shorter tower now but the taller tower is the Jackson LWIN tower. Our 6 and 2 meter ham repeaters are on that tower with LWIN. It's on DCI prison property.
 
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