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Hay i am looking for a deal on 10 motorola radios. i would like ex500's but motorola is not producing then anymore so if anyone knows someone selling ex500 or similar radios please let me know. ht750 is also good just nothing to expensive.
 

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What exactly are you looking for? UHF or VHF? How many channels? What is your budget? What is the environment they'll be used in?

There are a lot of really good options out there right now. Unless you really need a specific brand/model I'd recommend keeping your options open.
 

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It can be UHF or VHF that does not make a difference. the budget will be based on what product we are offered, we would like 16 channels and it will be use in a school for the custodial staff.
 
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It can be UHF or VHF that does not make a difference. the budget will be based on what product we are offered, we would like 16 channels and it will be use in a school for the custodial staff.

Your FCC license will dictate what band/frequencies you use. It's not legal to just randomly choose a frequency and start using it. Kind of putting the cart in front of the horse.

Check and see if the school/school district/department of education has a frequency already licensed. Find out who is responsible for that license (it should list a contact/control point) and talk to them. If the holder of the license approves you would need to pick radios that are compatible with those frequencies. It won't necessarily be UHF or VHF, could be low band, could be 800MHz, 900MHz, etc.

If you don't have a license, contact a radio dealer and let them know what you want to do. They can assist you with the details.
 

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Your FCC license will dictate what band/frequencies you use. It's not legal to just randomly choose a frequency and start using it. Kind of putting the cart in front of the horse.

Check and see if the school/school district/department of education has a frequency already licensed. Find out who is responsible for that license (it should list a contact/control point) and talk to them. If the holder of the license approves you would need to pick radios that are compatible with those frequencies. It won't necessarily be UHF or VHF, could be low band, could be 800MHz, 900MHz, etc.

If you don't have a license, contact a radio dealer and let them know what you want to do. They can assist you with the details.

the school that will be using it is not in the USA and therefore is not governed by the FCC so it does not make a difference what band/frequency i use
 

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OK, your "brooklyn ny" location threw me off.

While the FCC does not have jurisdiction outside the USA, almost every country has some government agency that fills that role. You'd really need to figure out what agency that is and find out how you would do this and stay on the right side of the rules.
 

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OK, your "brooklyn ny" location threw me off.

While the FCC does not have jurisdiction outside the USA, almost every country has some government agency that fills that role. You'd really need to figure out what agency that is and find out how you would do this and stay on the right side of the rules.

Sorry about the location thing I am not buying the radios for myself. but i will definitely look into whether there is an agency that governs this stuff where the radios will be used
 

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Sounds good.
The amount of area you need to cover, as well as building construction/local topography will dictate a lot. Simple radio to radio communications won't give you a lot of coverage. If you need to cover several large buildings or a large geographic area you'll need to consider a repeater.
 

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i have looked into all of that. All i need are 10 5 watt radios that are durable and will not easily give me software problems. And at the same time not to expensive
 

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Motorola, Vertex, Kenwood and Icom all make quality radios. Based off the EX500/HT-750 you listed above, you are probably looking at low to mid range commercial quality radios. There really are a lot of options available.

If you are pricing out radios, make sure you look at the total cost of ownership. The radio on it's own is only part of the cost. Batteries, accessories, antennas are all considered 'expendables' and will need fairly frequent replacement. It can really add up over time, so make sure you consider those costs.

I've got a maintenance group at work using Icom F-4011 radios. We've been buying them for somewhere in the $150/each range. 16 channel UHF. They get beat up pretty hard and are doing well.
 
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