Lower Merion going from EDACS to DMR?

[fireguyastro]

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[fireguyastro]

Moderator please delete my posts regarding LMPD ! Immediately for legal reasons please ! Contact me if more information is needed


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[phillydjdan]

I'm still waiting for a witty response from our pal Ljay. Maybe the politicians wouldn't ask the hard questions, but I'm no politician, so...

I'm just glad I'm not a resident of Lower Merion. If I were I'd the the a--hole being escorted out of every township meeting... lol

 

[Ljay]

LMPD

Tried to post the other day but the admin of
The forum decided it was to insulting to a former disgruntled employee of ours on this forum so he pulled it
So I give up you win

 

[fireguyastro]

Let it go all lock the thread !!


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[Stormfax]

Judging from the last five posts (at Halloween), I'm convinced this thread is haunted.
I'm going 8600.

 

[Septa3371CSX1]

Has Lower Merion PD returned to the DMR system? Not getting anything on P-Tac 4 and got a hit this morning on 16515073 on the DMR. Getting several hits on 16515087 but I believe this to be a DPW talkgroup as it hasn't been active nights and weekends. Of course everything on the DMR is Enhanced Privacy so no way to know for sure.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Has Lower Merion PD returned to the DMR system? Not getting anything on P-Tac 4 and got a hit this morning on 16515073 on the DMR. Getting several hits on 16515087 but I believe this to be a DPW talkgroup as it hasn't been active nights and weekends. Of course everything on the DMR is Enhanced Privacy so no way to know for sure.

Seems like they have

 

[fireguyastro]

Yea so when I talked to a supervisor there the public works were always on the system , however the Pd had the problem I'm guessing because of the connection issues by the third part supplier as earlier stated by some one


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[RicCTemple]

Update for the Lower Merion radio system; due the Hytera DMR system not being able to keep a strong and steady connection with Montgomery County dispatch, Lower Merion PD will be going to the MontCo P25 system approximately on September of 2016. The current plan is that the new Lower Merion P25 channels will be encrypted. The use of encryption is being pushed by the Montgomery County Communication Center as they move to go fully encrypted within the next few years. All other Lower Merion services that currently use the Hytera system will continue to be on the Lower Merion DMR network. The system works well within the township borders, but with it's current set up it does not do well for communicating with a person that is over 10 miles away. As soon as the new infrastructure for the P25 network is built and tested, LMPD will be operating on the MontCo network. A majority of the equipment for the police vehicles and the Police Officers have already been purchased and they are ready to be placed in service.

As for the reason for LMPD going with Hytera and then to MontCo P25, the radio system that was used by all of the Lower Merion services was very outdated and created a major safety issue for everyone using it. When the system was forced to narrow band, the reception became even worse. The equipment being used stopped being made years ago, and the radio repair company was losing the battle to keep them operational. This is the true reason why Lower Merion Township built the updated infrastructure for the Hytera system. As for the police using the system, when the Hytera system was designed the plan was not set in stone if Lower Merion Police were going to stay with Montgomery County Dispatch or go back to self dispatching as they did for many years. As a result they prepared for self dispatching while at the same time upgrading the radio system for all other Lower Merion services that use the radio network. Most of the funding for the Hytera system came from federal and state grants. The goal of the system was to insure that each person using the radio system had a reliable method to communicate with others within the township. The Hytera system has accomplished that mission for most of the Lower Merion services on the network. Unfortunately the distance and terrain to Montgomery County dispatch created a problem that could not be completely resolved. Since the plan to continue using Montgomery County dispatch is now locked in, the change to the MontCo P25 network is more logical and is a sound financial move. At the end of the day, the township employees have better equipment to communicate with each other and the police have a stronger network to conduct their duties. It is also a win for the township residents, business owners, and guests that rely on the people (myself included) whom use the radio systems to provide them with a variety of services.

 

[Stormfax]

Ric, thanks for the comprehensive update! Have a great Summer.
Stormfax Weather Services

 

[kh11]

The use of encryption is being pushed by the Montgomery County Communication Center as they move to go fully encrypted within the next few years

The general understanding seems to be that it is the police Chief's association that is pushing encryption for the police talk groups, not Montco DPS.

 

[cdavisjr]

Who has final say on an issue like that? and do we know how the commissh's feel and what the assoc's reasons are for pushing it all across the board.

 

[kh11]

Who has final say on an issue like that? and do we know how the commissh's feel and what the assoc's reasons are for pushing it all across the board.

See more discussion on this topic in this thread:
http://forums.radioreference.com/pennsylvania-radio-discussion-forum/258626-montco-upgrades.html

 

[whsbuss]

Who has final say on an issue like that? and do we know how the commissh's feel and what the assoc's reasons are for pushing it all across the board.

I would think the county commissioners would have the final say.

 

[radio3353]

I would think the county commissioners would have the final say.

That is how it was in Bucks County. The Commissioners said NO to the Police Chief's request for encryption (except for a few tactical channels, which makes perfect sense.) Their main objective was maintaining interoperability with other townships with a clear system. Montco just snubbed that idea:roll:

 

[Ljay]

lm dmr

they have about a year to 15 months before they go county
civil tower builds out issues. county dispatch dmr connection pretty much resolved fiber optic line issues

 

[fireguyastro]

Radios are being prepped and programmed now as we speak they should be online herd in the next few months. All the APX radios are in and should be deployed in the field soon.


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[kh11]

Radios are being prepped and programmed now as we speak they should be online herd in the next few months.

As far as I am aware, we haven't been asked for aliases, so they must not haven't gotten to programming our radios yet.

 

[HM1529]

Based on recent Unitrunker logs, it appears as though Lower Merion now has two talkgroups on the county system.

16752
16784

Limited activity so far...maybe training or guys fiddling with new radios. Looks like new PD 10 and Region 10. Most units affiliating are 234xx or 434xx units. The few keyups so far were digital.