lubbock's new p25 system

[lild806]

I was seeing if anyone had any information on when Lubbock's new p25system would be complete I have noticed on the edacs side that there are now 10 frequencies that remain active on it as they have pulled some of them and put them on the p25 system and then there are some that are just silent with zero activity on it.

I also have some talkgroups for the new system that aren't yet identified which are

20098-- this one sounded like a court house related when I did the discovery mode on the 436hp he said something about court master so im not sure

and then these are the other ones not identified
20176
20409
20533
20534
20546
20599
20572
20601
20731

65181-this one I know is fire related because I recognized the voice from the female dispatcher and on the discovery mode she said (all stations radio check in 2 minutes on channel 2)

 

[FireJustin]

65181 was a patch - talkgroups in that range popped up while the Zetron system was down, and they were using all of the backup station talkgroups for station alerting. Those are gone now that the Zetron is back.

Talkgroup 20731 matches EDACS talkgroup 386, but I"m not sure what that is.
20534 is EMS-6: Talk2
20533 is EMS-5: Talk1
20409 I BELIEVE is Water-11: Control (EDACS Talkgroup 389
20176 has been used by the Fire Marshal's Office (FMO), but it doesn't correlate to the EDACS system at all, and it's not their primary FMO channel...

The rest: I'm still working on those

 

[twobytwo]

I'm showing EDACS talkgroup 386 as simulcast of Sheriff 155.535. Im showing Water ch 11 as Water Inspections . Justin can you tell me what EDACS correlation for the FMO that you cant figure out? I dont have a scanner that gets TDMA.

 

[FireJustin]

Does anyone have a grasp on what 20122 is? I hear a lot of LPD traffic on there, but it sounds like training or academy stuff - talking about resetting cones and whatnot.

 

[lild806]

ive seen the talk group 20122 once but didn't really know what they were talking about they didn't do much talking that day I heard it.....and do you know any other departments in the county or city that is supposed to switch over to the new radio system..... and how about that zetron is there anyway to monitor the fire calls

 

[FireJustin]

Zetron is (to my understanding) through dedicated telephone lines between dispatch and each station, no way to monitor. To my understanding, all departments that currently use the EDACS system will be migrating to the P25 system. I see the new radios being rolled out to departments every day nearly.

 

[jeremyzone]

I'm showing EDACS talkgroup 386 as simulcast of Sheriff 155.535.

I dunno. As far as I can tell, 155.535 Mhz is Buffalo Springs PD and is being simulcast on EDACS TGID 423. This TGID is currently listed in the database as being Abernathy PD but it's not.

Maybe LCSO reshuffled some of their radio channels?

 

[twobytwo]

I dunno. As far as I can tell, 155.535 Mhz is Buffalo Springs PD and is being simulcast on EDACS TGID 423. This TGID is currently listed in the database as being Abernathy PD but it's not.

Maybe LCSO reshuffled some of their radio channels?

I have to disagree with you,but dont get upset. Before the SO went to EDACS...155.535 was the main channel. All of the smaller cities in the county had this ( along with 155.58- CH2). since the migration to the city radio system there may be some orphan radios using 155.535 and maybe smaller pds to communicate with sheriff after their own dispatcher is not on duty.Deputies going to the jail and UMC to watch inmates at the hospital would use this.This of course is speculation.
I used to hear Buffalo Springs pd on 453.275 frequently. About the last 2 years or so that freq is dead silent.There is a frequency that was recently licensed to them of 155.8275-repeter and input of 151.22 .Abernathy also had a new freq licesensed to them recently of 154.8825 repeater (158.9325). The old freq of 156.00 also changed on their license of repeater to Base and the old input freq of 155.145 also changed to mobile but I contiue to hear the repeater.
Then again you may be right.

 

[jeremyzone]

I have to disagree with you,but dont get upset. Before the SO went to EDACS...155.535 was the main channel. All of the smaller cities in the county had this ( along with 155.58- CH2). since the migration to the city radio system there may be some orphan radios using 155.535 and maybe smaller pds to communicate with sheriff after their own dispatcher is not on duty.Deputies going to the jail and UMC to watch inmates at the hospital would use this.This of course is speculation.
I used to hear Buffalo Springs pd on 453.275 frequently. About the last 2 years or so that freq is dead silent.There is a frequency that was recently licensed to them of 155.8275-repeter and input of 151.22 .Abernathy also had a new freq licesensed to them recently of 154.8825 repeater (158.9325). The old freq of 156.00 also changed on their license of repeater to Base and the old input freq of 155.145 also changed to mobile but I contiue to hear the repeater.
Then again you may be right.

Hey, no offense taken at all! We're all just trying to work together to figure this out.

Take a listen to 155.535 at the same time as EDACS 423. They're the same and they're not Abernathy.

I can pick up Abernathy on 156.00 only faintly. Not well enough to understand. However, I don't think it is patched to the EDACS system based on my monitoring.

Now the point we seem to disagree on is the current use of 155.535. I have been listening to it a lot over the past week, ever since I realized that the current database ID of the talkgroup 423 is incorrect. At this point, the channel is currently being used by Buffalo Springs PD. But the question is, Are they using this frequency for ONLY Buffalo Springs or is it a general LCSO VHF channel that happens to have Buffalo Springs on it? I think it is the current main dispatch channel for Buffalo Springs PD based on what I've heard but I can't answer that definitively and will keep listening!

Thanks for the info on the new frequencies. I've added them to my scanner to try to ID what they're used for

More on topic for this thread: I have found the following on the new P25 system although I don't have IDs for them

20118
20339 Some sort of a public works channel
20353
20520 Some sort of Talk channel? Wouldn't be surprised if it's LCSO Talk 1 or 2.
20585
20603

 

[lild806]

As far as the 20601 and 20603 talkgroups I've been wondering if either frenship isd or Lubbock cooper or even Lubbock isd police were going to have additional channels added since those are near their current channels

 

[twobytwo]

As far as the 20601 and 20603 talkgroups I've been wondering if either frenship isd or Lubbock cooper or even Lubbock isd police were going to have additional channels added since those are near their current channels

I seen a Shallowater ISD police car in Lubbock just the other day. I had to take a scond look because I didn't know SISD had a police dept/car. FWIW Ive NEVER heard any radio traffic whatso ever from them. They could be working out of the Shallowater city police.

 

[lild806]

The only other districts that have any kind of police force are slaton isd and Roosevelt isd but they each have one or two officers

 

[twobytwo]

The more I listen to TG423 the stranger things get. I heard a unit call out on an address at Buffalo Lakes. It was on 155.535 and TG 423. I also heard the same transmission on Ransom Canyon Ch-154.0925 . I have heard other simulacast transmission on 155.535,154.0925 & TG423. So there must be a 3 way patch. So question I have is Buffalo using Ransom Canyon's channel ?

 

[TLF82]

155.535 is the old Lubbock SO dispatch 1 frequency. Buffalo just happens to be about the only users on it still. They are working on (if it has not already been completed) patching it do the LSO primary dispatch on the phase 2 system.

 

[FireJustin]

Shallowater PD operates on Lubbock SO (most of the time) but they have the Shallowater PD Talkgroup for intra-city and car-2-car talking. I was thinking the 206XX talkgroups could be about any school district, I just haven't heard enough chatter to pinpoint anything of value yet.

 

[FireJustin]

Just submitted these, but for those who don't want to wait:
TGID:
20301 Radio Shop 2
20302 Radio Shop 3
20305 Radio Shop 6
20339 Facilities Maintenance (City of Lubbock)
20542 EMS to Covenant Emergency Department

I don't know how many channels the Radio Shop is using currently, but from the traffic I'm hearing (in the clear) it sounds like a lot of stuff being used for system testing purposes. They do a lot of talk testing also on the EOC channels.

I also didn't know that Covenant was getting any 800mhz radios, but it didn't really sound like a patch....

 

[jeremyzone]

Just submitted these, but for those who don't want to wait:
TGID:
20301 Radio Shop 2
20302 Radio Shop 3
20305 Radio Shop 6
20339 Facilities Maintenance (City of Lubbock)
20542 EMS to Covenant Emergency Department

I don't know how many channels the Radio Shop is using currently, but from the traffic I'm hearing (in the clear) it sounds like a lot of stuff being used for system testing purposes. They do a lot of talk testing also on the EOC channels.

I also didn't know that Covenant was getting any 800mhz radios, but it didn't really sound like a patch....

Thanks for this, FireJustin

Wow, so I guess the radio shop thinks they need a lot of channels? Lol. Heard them testing today on EMS 4. Sounded terrible BTW...

There appear to be some other EMS channels out there. I have run Unitrunker on this system and have some hits for 20543 and 20546. The hit on 20543 was from an EMS radio. The other talkgroup I didn't get the radio info for. Have not heard traffic on these talkgroups yet.

[Slightly off topic: I added some info to the Lubbock County wiki about fire tone outs for the county VFD units as well as EMS units. I know that the VFD is definitely not complete yet as I'm missing Slaton, Idalou, and Ransom Canyon. I have two different tone outs for Ransom Canyon, which I expect one to be EMS and the other Fire but I have only heard them dispatch both together]

 

[FireJustin]

Yeah, last night EMS was having some serious issues. I think it's the fact that they try to add patch to patch to patch for interoperability, instead of just giving everyone a radio that needs to communicate.

I don't know what all those other talkgroups are for, I am showing 20533, 20534 and 20535 as EMS radios talking, which leads me to believe that all of the talkgroups between the known 20536 as EMS-7 (UMC) and 20542 Covenant will all be EMS related. Perhaps all of the Emergency rooms in town will get an 800mhz radio, but after that???

I am not really familiar with wiki, but I have all of the information you are missing, so if you want to drop me a PM, I can hook you up and you can add it to the wiki?

 

[jeremyzone]

Yeah, last night EMS was having some serious issues. I think it's the fact that they try to add patch to patch to patch for interoperability, instead of just giving everyone a radio that needs to communicate.

I don't know what all those other talkgroups are for, I am showing 20533, 20534 and 20535 as EMS radios talking, which leads me to believe that all of the talkgroups between the known 20536 as EMS-7 (UMC) and 20542 Covenant will all be EMS related. Perhaps all of the Emergency rooms in town will get an 800mhz radio, but after that???

I am not really familiar with wiki, but I have all of the information you are missing, so if you want to drop me a PM, I can hook you up and you can add it to the wiki?

Thanks for the fire tone outs. I was able to complete the county VFD list as there was a fire tonight and lots of tone outs to record!

 

[FireJustin]

Another update submitted, but here is the data before they update the db:
This is the order programmed in the radio, including those we already know)
(EMS1)
(Fire 1)
(EMS 2)
(EMS 3 Admin)
20532 EMS-4 (no longer command)
20535 EMS Command
(UMC ED)
20544 UMC L&D
20542 Covenant Adult
20543 Covenant Pediatric
20545 Heart Hospital
20546 Grace Hospital
(PD Secondary)
(SO Dispatch 1)
(LIA PD)
(LISD PD)


These are for patient radio reports or on-line medical control