Not uncommon for new radio projects. Factor in COVID-related labor force shortages and shortages of construction materials, the delays can mount. These types of contracts have provisions for unforseen "acts of God," and it's likely they have been used liberally across the country. The radio replacement project in our county has been stretched out for several more years due to COVID costs and other delays.
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Yeah. That’s the blame. Construction on a few tower sites have been delayed and they don’t want to accept without proper foliage testing. We’ll see how much that delays things into 2022. On the plus side that means more time to listen to the PD before, well, the switch is flipped unnecessarily.
I haven’t had time to look but still haven’t found an official list of frequencies for this yet.
BUT, today was the first time I’ve heard testing being done on it. Not a lot. Once or twice an hour and it sounded awful even for a P25 system. But it appears they’re finally at an initial testing phase.
Unfortunately they were testing while I was working and the tests were very quick so I missed catching any information other than catching they were testing.
BUT, today was the first time I’ve heard testing being done on it. Not a lot. Once or twice an hour and it sounded awful even for a P25 system. But it appears they’re finally at an initial testing phase.
Unfortunately they were testing while I was working and the tests were very quick so I missed catching any information other than catching they were testing.
What about the testing sounded bad? And what were you using to receive the transmissions?
NgoraSweatr
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I'm receiving 161.925, NAC AF2, Site 1-002 near Berwick/Nescopeck with a neighbor of 1-001 using SDRTrunk. I accidentally found this tonight while trying to receive the ECEN Starnet simulcast. Does this sound right?
What was the control channel(s)?
NgoraSweatr
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SDRTrunk says the following:
Primary CC of 161.925
Secondary CCs of 152.6525, 152.6825, and 161.8875.
Is there going to be an analog patch for Lackawanna county?
I mean the interesting thing is I thought I saw some Lackawanna County police and fire with new DMR capable radios rather than P-25.
There's quite the number of calls on the border in the valley where fire departments from both counties respond.
I mean the interesting thing is I thought I saw some Lackawanna County police and fire with new DMR capable radios rather than P-25.
There's quite the number of calls on the border in the valley where fire departments from both counties respond.
NgoraSweatr
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In case anyone wanted the full output from SDRTrunk:
Note: SDRTrunk id's P25P1 and P25P2 as Phase 1 regardless of which one they are.
Note: SDRTrunk id's P25P1 and P25P2 as Phase 1 regardless of which one they are.
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Activity Summary - Decoder:P25 Phase 1 Simulcast (LSM)
Network
WACN:BEE00[781824] SYSTEM:AF0[2800] NAC:AF2[2802]
Current Site
SYSTEM:AF0[2800] NAC:AF2[2802] RFSS:20[32] SITE:7C[124] LRA:00[0] STATUS:ACTIVE RFSS NETWORK CONNECTION
PRI CONTROL CHANNEL:14-2731/9-3228 DOWNLINK:0 UPLINK:169395000
SEC CONTROL CHANNEL:4-1061/4-3165 DOWNLINK:152652500 UPLINK:157912500
SEC CONTROL CHANNEL:4-1073/4-3177 DOWNLINK:152682500 UPLINK:157942500
SEC CONTROL CHANNEL:7-659/4-2915 DOWNLINK:161887500 UPLINK:157287500
CURRENT DATA CHANNEL:15-4095 DOWNLINK:0 UPLINK:0
STATION ID/LICENSE:
Neighbor Sites
SYSTEM:AF0[2800] NAC:AF2[2802] RFSS:01[1] SITE:01[1] LRA:00[0] CHANNEL:7-644/4-2900 DOWNLINK:161850000 UPLINK:157250000
Frequency Bands
BAND:0 FDMA BASE:851006250 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-45000000
BAND:1 FDMA BASE:762006250 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:30000000
BAND:2 TDMA BASE:851012500 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:12500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-45000000 TIMESLOTS:2
BAND:3 TDMA BASE:762006250 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:12500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:30000000 TIMESLOTS:2
BAND:4 FDMA BASE:150000000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:2500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:5000
BAND:5 TDMA BASE:150000000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:2500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:5000 TIMESLOTS:2
BAND:6 TDMA BASE:155120000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:2500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:5000 TIMESLOTS:2
BAND:7 FDMA BASE:160240000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:2500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:5000
BAND:8 TDMA BASE:160240000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:2500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:5000 TIMESLOTS:2
BAND:9 TDMA BASE:165360000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:2500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:5000 TIMESLOTS:2
BAND:10 FDMA BASE:170480000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:2500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:5000
BAND:11 TDMA BASE:170480000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:2500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:5000 TIMESLOTS:2
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NgoraSweatr
Just some guy, ya know?
Corrected the code block. My antenna decided it didn't like doing things for a moment there.
Not saying those are correct or incorrect but the frequencies listed there don’t seem to match up to anything I’ve had hit while hearing system testing. But I’m traveling and not near the squawk box it’s programmed into to cross check and that SDR stuff is so foreign to me you may as well be posting in German.
Edit: All my hits came from stuff I found on a long lost document I grabbed off of the County website. Unfortunately that doc has long been deleted and I never wrote anything down. I have never been able to find that doc again. I can say without being home all my hits come up under what I have entered as “NORTH” and I’ve never seen anything I have entered as “SOUTH” get any hits. If you’re in the Berwick area maybe those are part of that “SOUTH” I have listed and might be why they don’t look familiar to me?
In other news the December update was finally posted. With no big updates listed. More site work on towers. Training and radio installs to start in 2022 but departments with equipment needs can apply for early installs. And still saying Q2 of 2022 is the targeted cut over after Spring testing when everything is grown in again.
I’ve noticed after October ended the testing has almost completely stopped on what I’ve been hearing at least. There’s an occasional quick key up but maybe not more than once or twice a week right now. Even that I only notice because the 100’s display turns on.
Edit: All my hits came from stuff I found on a long lost document I grabbed off of the County website. Unfortunately that doc has long been deleted and I never wrote anything down. I have never been able to find that doc again. I can say without being home all my hits come up under what I have entered as “NORTH” and I’ve never seen anything I have entered as “SOUTH” get any hits. If you’re in the Berwick area maybe those are part of that “SOUTH” I have listed and might be why they don’t look familiar to me?
In other news the December update was finally posted. With no big updates listed. More site work on towers. Training and radio installs to start in 2022 but departments with equipment needs can apply for early installs. And still saying Q2 of 2022 is the targeted cut over after Spring testing when everything is grown in again.
I’ve noticed after October ended the testing has almost completely stopped on what I’ve been hearing at least. There’s an occasional quick key up but maybe not more than once or twice a week right now. Even that I only notice because the 100’s display turns on.
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The control channel 161.925 / 157.325 and secondary control channel 161.8875 / 157.2875 are licensed to Luzerne County as WROQ510 using PC Service channels. Documentation for the license indicates they will be used for the South cell.
The secondary control channels 152.6525 / 157.9125 and 152.6825 / 157.9425 are licensed to Luzerne County as WROE527 using CP Service channels. Documentation for the license indicates the will be used in the South cell.
The secondary control channels 152.6525 / 157.9125 and 152.6825 / 157.9425 are licensed to Luzerne County as WROE527 using CP Service channels. Documentation for the license indicates the will be used in the South cell.
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The SDRTrunk output above indicates the North cell using a cch of 161.850 / 157.250. Other channels for the North site appear to be:
161.8125 / 157.2125; 152.6975 / 157.9575; 152.6675 / 157.9275; and 152.6375 / 157.8975.
One additional channel for the South cell is 152.6225 / 157.8825.
Note that this data came from documentation in the FCC License database as above. The ERP for the channels to be used in the system are in the 30 - 70W range - not terribly powerful stations. The contour maps show the signaling to be more or less confined to Luzerne's borders, so don't expect to be hearing this system too deeply in surrounding jurisdictions.
161.8125 / 157.2125; 152.6975 / 157.9575; 152.6675 / 157.9275; and 152.6375 / 157.8975.
One additional channel for the South cell is 152.6225 / 157.8825.
Note that this data came from documentation in the FCC License database as above. The ERP for the channels to be used in the system are in the 30 - 70W range - not terribly powerful stations. The contour maps show the signaling to be more or less confined to Luzerne's borders, so don't expect to be hearing this system too deeply in surrounding jurisdictions.
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South would make sense for them then. That’s probably why I didn’t recognize those. Where I’m at in the county all I’ve heard so far was testing on what I had listed as “North” and my “South” has been silent. Then again the North hasn’t been very busy lately either.
That's what I use because I have to use both P25 and NXDN in the same band.
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Any chance you can send me the link to this map? I've been trying to find the locations but were unsuccessful
Link to what map? I posted it, just download the image. It's not something I found, but is something I created based on the license data.
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A link to the google map you made. I was hoping to get more accurate locations, like specific tower sites, not a plot on a very zoomed out map
I can't seem to find any FCC licenses for more than half of those sites/
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