Major Forest/Brush Fire LA County Glendora

[LZJSR]

A major brush fire has broken out in the Angeles National Forest near Glendora Mountain Road and Colby Road. 30 + acres, rapid rate of spread, multiple structures burning. Large neighborhoods threatened. 30mph winds. Multiple immediate need strike teams are en route. More than 60 LACoFD engines on scene (or en route), 20 Forest Engines, and all available water dropping aircraft. Live audio on the LACoFD Blue 6 and Angeles National Forest Feeds. Live video on KTLA.com.

Below is current list from Pulsepoint app of units assigned from LACoFD: E86, E151, E97, E85, E264, E64, E32, DZ2, TRAN8, CN16, COPT17, WT32, CC192, CC193, CC161, CC163, SU17, SU20, SU16, P97, S151, BC2, ^BC16, ^BRU, ^HEO, ^ANF, SU12, E182, COPT15, COPT11, EST85, SU23, E244, E4, E118, E29, WT120, ^CC82, CC122, CC111, CC113, ?HT2, BC15, BC19, AC2, COPT16, COPT14, U16, CN1, DC1, ^INFO2, BC44, E141, E184, E102, E154, E48, E87, E186, E44, E101, E62, BC10, BC8, AC8, ^Q86, P44, SO1, ^INV1, ^INV6, ?INV9, COML3, TRAN7, DZ1, SO15, AC1, AC41, INFO3, SO8, INV7, CC22, HT4, DC2, E8131, E8132, E8133, E8134, E8135, BC19B, CC91, BC61, BC46, SO7, U10, AC4, ?QB1, ?QB2, INFO1, ?INV2

Below is the current list from Wildcad for ANF units assigned to the incident: BC-15 BC-21 BC-22 BDF-32 BDF-337 CRW-70 CRW-76 DOZ-1 DV-2 DVD-408 ENG-16 ENG-21 ENG-23 ENG-24 ENG-25 ENG-27 ENG-311 ENG-520 PAT-21 PAT-25 WT-10 WT-25

Radio Communications: Blue 5, Blue 6, Blue, 7, 133.425, 172.375, 168.2, 154.4, 154.34, 154.43

 

[karldotcom]

VTac 2 152.420
Blue 7 470.4625

 

[SCPD]

A major brush fire has broken out in the Angeles National Forest near Glendora Mountain Road and Colby Road. 30 + acres, rapid rate of spread, multiple structures burning. Large neighborhoods threatened. 30mph winds. Multiple immediate need strike teams are en route. More than 60 LACoFD engines on scene (or en route), 20 Forest Engines, and all available water dropping aircraft. Live audio on the LACoFD Blue 6 and Angeles National Forest Feeds. Live video on KTLA.com.

Below is current list from Pulsepoint app of units assigned from LACoFD: E86, E151, E97, E85, E264, E64, E32, DZ2, TRAN8, CN16, COPT17, WT32, CC192, CC193, CC161, CC163, SU17, SU20, SU16, P97, S151, BC2, ^BC16, ^BRU, ^HEO, ^ANF, SU12, E182, COPT15, COPT11, EST85, SU23, E244, E4, E118, E29, WT120, ^CC82, CC122, CC111, CC113, ?HT2, BC15, BC19, AC2, COPT16, COPT14, U16, CN1, DC1, ^INFO2, BC44, E141, E184, E102, E154, E48, E87, E186, E44, E101, E62, BC10, BC8, AC8, ^Q86, P44, SO1, ^INV1, ^INV6, ?INV9, COML3, TRAN7, DZ1, SO15, AC1, AC41, INFO3, SO8, INV7, CC22, HT4, DC2, E8131, E8132, E8133, E8134, E8135, BC19B, CC91, BC61, BC46, SO7, U10, AC4, ?QB1, ?QB2, INFO1, ?INV2

Below is the current list from Wildcad for ANF units assigned to the incident: BC-15 BC-21 BC-22 BDF-32 BDF-337 CRW-70 CRW-76 DOZ-1 DV-2 DVD-408 ENG-16 ENG-21 ENG-23 ENG-24 ENG-25 ENG-27 ENG-311 ENG-520 PAT-21 PAT-25 WT-10 WT-25

Radio Communications: Blue 5, Blue 6, Blue, 7, 133.425, 172.375, 168.2, 154.4, 154.34, 154.43

The abbreviation bomb has hit. I'm not sure what a S, SU, AC, CN and HT are. I think HT might mean HeliTender. I assume CC is camp crew, but I don't recognize camp 122 unless that is Crew 12-2.

The Angeles has staffed some of its engines yearlong since the 70's More recently (in the past 15 years or so) engines in the rest of California, and maybe some in other states, most especially Arizona and New Mexico, are staffing some of their engines yearlong. The standard staffing for USFS Type III engines is a permanent year round engine captain, a 18/8 permanent engine operator (18 pay periods guaranteed and 8 call when needed - a pay period being 2 weeks) and one 13/13 lead firefighter. During fire season there are two 1039 seasonal firefighters. "1039" refers to the maximum hours a seasonal may work. This is one hour short of the 2080 working hours of a full time year at 8 hours per day. Engines are either run with just a crew of 3, or personnel are shifted between engines to staff fewer engines with a full crew of 5. ICS typing shows 3 persons as minimum staffing for a Type III.

I think the 70 series crews you identified are call when needed (blue card) crews. Prevention units, "patrols" when they carry drive a Type VII engine, are all year long on the Angeles and the other 3 southern California National Forests. All of them in the rest of south ops are as well.

It now looks like year long staffing of hotshot crews should be considered. I know that during the Texas fires in February 2011 and for the space shuttle debris recovery (I don't remember the year) hotshot crews were brought on during the winter. I could see combining the permanent employees from each of the five hotshot crews on the Angeles into one year long crew, but there would be superintendents working for superintendents in that case. That is something that doesn't fly in the federal government so I'm not sure how it would be accomplished unless four or five additional permanent positions were filled on the five crews. Then there are the Assistant Superintendents and squad bosses that would be working for the same level. I don't know how it will be accomplished, but the handwriting seems to be on the wall.

 

[Code20Photog]

The abbreviation bomb has hit. I'm not sure what a S, SU, AC, CN and HT are. I think HT might mean HeliTender. I assume CC is camp crew, but I don't recognize camp 122 unless that is Crew 12-2.

S is likely squad, as Squad 151 is in Glendora.
SU looks like its a Support, which are the stakebed trucks.
AC is Assistant Chief
CN is Construction which are the swampers. It appears they don't show up in the CAD as the Dozer team, it seems to show the individual units Dozer 2 on Transport 8 with Construction 16.
HT does appear to the be the Helitenders based on the numbering.
CC is the Camp Crew, looks like the cad eliminates the dash, so 19-1 becomes CC191

 

[LZJSR]

SU is "Superintendent" (the supervisor for the camp crews)

 

[Sonar]

I have a friend whose parents live in Glendora that was in the evacuation area; his parents has since returned home. But they are without electricity. Word is power won't get repaired and get back online until Sunday evening. The heir of In-N-Out lives in a mansion nearby and they're running on house generators.

 

[spectr17]

Thursday about 2pm at the mouth of the canyon on Hwy 39. The wind had already shifted. Trying to get up to Camp 19 but the hwy was full of fire, fire engines and boulders coming down.

Colby Fire Hwy 39 in Azusa CA Jan 16 2014. Wildland fire, fire, firefighter, CalFIre, Air Attack - YouTube