Guys, this happened righ by where I work. They landed OSP's Plane 1 in our field to investigate the accident.http://cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=411002&r=0&Category=11&subCategoryID=0
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I hadn't heard that the fire truck ran a stop light/sign, let alone was traveling at 60mph... Is there an updated story somewhere?medic611 said:Simply put you stop for stop signs, red lights, ect. Gone are the days of driving 60 mph in town.
Four way stop with flashing red lights. Van was hit broadside and pushed 100 yards...rdale said:Thanks, but that is already posted above. Nothing in there indicates the excessive speed and/or running of a stop sign.
The firefighters were all right after the accident... The fire service needs to change the way they respond... I'm sure you've seen it, the full throttle run for a grass fire or dumpster or trash fire. Take a modern day EVOC course, times have changed, 100 years of tradition unimpeded by change days are over. Almost every day there are news articles of emergency vehicle crashes. We are killing each other and the people we are supposed to be helping.hoser147 said:Ya it was a truck fire, that had rolled towards a residence, which the caller stated yes to the truck being by a house. Lots of pieces to the puzzle to apply blame at this point. The article implies that possibly the driver of the van was hearing impaired, as for being pushed the 100 yards,there are also lots of pieces, the fire truck driver, could have been knocked unconscious or his foot could have been pinned on the accelerator or something mech. damaged during the collision. Im sure the OSP will do a very intense investigation into the matter and the facts of the accident. Hoser
Any lawyer will always go after the "deepest pockets" which is the city and not the $50,000 a year firefighter. These "rats in suits" have only their own payday in mind.medic611 said:... and eventually you will see the liability fall more upon the driver of the vehicle more than they govt. entity in my opinion.
Most have went to an EVOC course many years ago, here you retake it annually and have to log 8hrs extra vehicle time in each vehicle. It only takes a few seconds to brake and make sure that intersection is clear and go on. Ive seen some invincible cowboys that blow intersections that send a chill up your spine. Even worse is the POV will a little dashlite thinking they are king of the road. Something obviously happened to push that minivan down the road 100yards. It will be interesting to see what the investigation turns up.....Hosernewsalan said:The firefighters were all right after the accident... The fire service needs to change the way they respond... I'm sure you've seen it, the full throttle run for a grass fire or dumpster or trash fire. Take a modern day EVOC course, times have changed, 100 years of tradition unimpeded by change days are over. Almost every day there are news articles of emergency vehicle crashes. We are killing each other and the people we are supposed to be helping.
What's the old adage: "We will risk a lot to save a lot. We will risk a little to save a little, and we will risk nothing to save nothing."
A truck and a residence are nothing compared to the lives of firefighters and they people they were paid to protect. And the dispatcher only had to ask, anybody in danger... St Louis went to silent response and cut their accident rate in half or more. This truck in my opinion should have been routine response until the first unit was on scene and had made a proper size-up.