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Whoever keeps telling the admins to put Marlborough in Middlesex county needs to look at a map again... its Hartford county.

Lets try and keep things correct so when people are looking they find what they are looking for.
 

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Hebron

Hebron is TOLLAND county not New London... I think people are getting confused because of each of these towns dispatch frequency (Marlb 46.18 which is Middlesex Co. and Hebron 33.80 which is most of Tolland/Windham Co.)

Oh well... just thought I would bring that up
 

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They are trying to fix the problem.... with low power UHF repeaters crosspatched to low band! It's all about money which none of these little towns have. I know some towns have really made out well with grants. Portland and Durham for example built some really nice systems.

We have some Ritron, Tekk, and Midland mobiles/portables in our department so believe me the money is tight. But the Midlands seem to hold up pretty well so I cant bust on them too much :)
 

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there are some folks posting who are searching the FCC database and then post the frequencies without verifying users. Also, some admin folks may be local but unfortunately some are not.

Example: Simsbury Fire District listing is "new". They are a tax district for the town. The license is in the district's name. Now there is a Simsbury Fire District and a Town of Simsbury. Both have KCC493 for the license but one (District listing) has no PL or usage. Why? because the submitter just copied it from the FCC listing.

That is why a national site will never be better than a local list or site can be.

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Funny that you mention that because I just stumbled over it myself. I see other similar scenarios where someone labels something like "City of ABC" and then just below it is "Town of ABC." I wonder if its even worth trying to fix because I guarantee you within a week that same person will have their incorrect info reposted. It's a never ending cycle.

More local mods could help a significantly or we could hunt those down who don’t comply and introduce them to the old Louisville Slugger!
 

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Just make sure you use a wooden one. Those aluminum ones just don't compare in the beating department.
 

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One of the big problems is that towns might be geographically located in one county but dispatched out of another. Marlborough is located in Hartford County but is dispatch by KX out of Middlesex County. Hebron is located in Tolland County but Dispatched out of Middlesex County. In Tolland county we have Ashford and East Windsor that are in differetn counties but dispatched from Tolland. All four counties, Tolland (TN), Windham (QV), Willimantic (WW), and Middlesex (KX) use 33.80/152.0075 as a dispatch channel for most of their departments. Certain departments like Willimantic fire Marlborough, and Colchester fire do get dispatched out on their own channel but everyone else goes out on 33.80/152.0075.
 

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Well I see your point but the database is broken down by county and then community not what town the regional dispatch center is in. How the hell would you expect people to know where to look in the database? The most logical place would be the county the town is in. I was a KX dispatcher for some years so let me clear some things up for you. KX is in Colchester (Troop K) which is New London county. Hebron is dispatched by KX as well and that in itself has nothing to do with Middlesex County.

Colchester and Willimantic do not get dispatched on their own channels. They are both dispatched on 33.80 and go to their respective operations and fireground frequencies. Marlborough is dispatched on 46.18 which is Middlesex County (again, not their own frequency).
 

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My apologies spatch713, it seems I was confused about the counties. I mised up Middlesex with New London countys. I also agree that the town should be listed by its geographic location rather than its dispatch center. I was merely stating why someone could accidentally put information in the wrong area.
You are correct that Colchester is in new London County and is dispatched out of the police baracks at troop K by civilian dispatchers (KX). You are also correct that Colchester fire does get dispatched out on 33.80 then operates on 33.82/UHF. However when the city of Willimantic fire department goes out for a call in their district (the city) they are not dispatched on 33.80. They get dispatched on their UHF frequency 460.625. If the medic is dispatched they will also put the call out on the sirens frequency which is 460.575. Only if the amubulance/fire department is dispatched to the Windhams (North, Center, South) does the call go out on 33.80. As for Marlborough I am not sure how they are toned out I just know that I do not hear them being dispatched on 33.80. I thought they were dipatched out of KX according to the current state PSAP map. And why would a town located in Hartford County (geographically), being dispatched out of KX (New London County) be operating on 46.18 which spatch713 stated was a Middlesex county frequency? Seems a bit confusing to me.
 

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I want to second kmacinct sentiments regarding lowband and let andy404ns know that there is no plight with towns using lowband. Lowband works very well and infact TN dispatch is currently developing a plan that would expand the use and development of lowband. The main reason being that there is no useable UHF RF in the public safety band in CT. Due to the FCC's limitation of power and antenna height of UHF licenses it makes the cost of building a UHF system throughout Tolland County a financial impossibility. In order to get good coverage similar to the current coverage of lowband on UHF throughtout the county there would need to be a massive network of low power UHF sites. These sites would need to be simulcastes and voted in order to make the system workable for the dispatchers. Since TN only has about 6 to 8 useable tower sites the capital investment would be substatial. Overtime a system could be built but in the interim there needs to be a tool to bridge this gap. Lowband is the answer. Manufacturers are still supporting lowband in both mobile and repeater technology. With good filtering and the use of PL tones the problems of the past with skip are all but eliminated.
 

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I noticed a few things as well, in CT and in PA/NY which I submitted some stuff. Data is going all over the place or is misentered. I had some pretty detailed submissions/corrections and it was (and still is) pretty screwed up.
 
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