Mashantucket Pequot Tribal UHF Trunked System

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Hi, Just thought I would let you guys know the Mashantucket Pequot Tribal Nation has just switched all of there radio communications to a Motorola UHF trunked system. This is used by the tribal police, Fire Dept., Security and all other depts. Here are the Freqs. I received from a dispatcher over there. He does not know what the control channels are or the ID # as the Motorola techs don`t tell them these things and I can`t figure out how to enter a UHF trunked system into my 780 to find out for them and I don`t feel to bad about that as they have one there at dispatch and can`t figure out how to use the UHF trunk tracker on it either. Well here are the Freqs it is a very stong system as one of the PD officers can pick it up in Cromwell on his portable. Here are the freqs. 451.225 451.425 451.825 451.725 451.15 452.275 452.825 456.225 456.425 456.825 457.275 457.825 461.25 461.825 461.85 461.95 462.125 462.175 463.725 463.875 463.90 464.61225 466.25 466.825 466.95 467.125 467.175 468.725 468.875 468.90 469.625. those are the freqs and any help with how to enter those into a bc780 UHF trunk would really help me out I could then get you guys the ID # Thanks Gary
 

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I believe you will find that this is a Passport enhanced LTR system. Marcus radio has installed the system. Here is the statewide system he owns. One of the sites is in Ledyard.

http://www.voicelink.net/

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rumor has it that marcus communications is being sued by the tribe. if you look at the fcc website, it looks like some of the frequencies have expired, so someone is in trounle with the indians. with unlimited bugets, this might be a big problem for them (marcus). hope this info helps bill simpson771
 

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ANy update on this system? I would love to try out the trunking in my UHF portable if it is a non-LTR system.

What's the deal with Marcus anyways? I haven't heard too many positive things about them lately.
 

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bruce marcus is a buisnessman. he is trying to get marketshare from motorola (good luck). he gave newington a trunk system so he could have a good site(s) in town. i dont know why he didnot renew freqs for the indians, but you dont want to get then mad at you! not that he has some money to work with, you will see alot more of marcus spectrum holdings llc.

bill simpson771
 

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Good guy

I will have to say that Bruce Marcus is one of the most awsome people in this world. Enough of the bashing we all make mistakes, what the heck.
 

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Hello,

It looks like someone was listening to this system as well and posted some useful information. I was going by North Stonington, CT so I hung around for about an hour this past weekend monitoring the system with LTRDump. Unfortunely I had a data glitch delete some data so I was not able to get all the site 102 frequencies.

In the database the 02 and 03 frequencies listed for the #1 system belong to another site. The 02 frequency of 452.0750 is actually used in the #2 system in the database. So the police are on system #2. That is one advantage of using LTRDump. You get an idea what channels belong to what systems. The problem I had was not listening long enough to get some of the non-home repeater numbers. I hope to get down to CT soon and give another listen.

This is a 4 Site Passport system with a majority of radio traffic being Regular LTR. Passport supports Regular LTR as well. You need a program like LTRDump/LTRTrunk to decode and track any units using Passport instead of Regular LTR.

The FCC database shows four trunked sites along Route 2 from Ledyard to North Stonington. One site by the Casino, one site by the Museum, one site on top of Wintechog Hill (shared with VoiceLink site 80), and one site near the junction of Route 2 and I-95. I noticed some frequencies are not shown in the FCC database.

Marcus did both Voicelink and this system so I find it interesting that the original VoiceLink sites are numbered 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, and 80. This system has sites numbered 90, 100, 101, and 102. Marcus seems to use unique site ids for passport systems it sets up. The maximum number of sites in a network is 127 (1 to 127). It is possible that Passport radios on this system can also use VoiceLink but I have not seen any indication.

I did not monitor any Passport activity other than CW IDs from the repeaters. This system may be only using Regular LTR radios. Site 90 is so very active that I may have missed some Passport activity. I did not hear any voice activity on sites 100 or 102. On 451.225 MHz (Site 100) I did pick up some transmissions as Area 1 Channel 1 but it sounded like a distant LTR system.

Passport does not use repeater numbers like Regular LTR so the Rptr entries are for Regular LTR. The LTRDump logs allow me to determine what Rptr numbers are used in the system.

Site 90 WPVQ885 LTR Area 0
Sited near or at Foxwoods and has a heavy amount of Regular LTR traffic.
Rptr 1 451.8250 Regular LTR Home Channel
Rptr 5 451.4250 Regular LTR Home Channel
Rptr 7 ????????
Rptr 12 ????????
Rptr 13 463.8750 Passport/Regular LTR
Rptr 15 ????????
Rptr 17 464.6250 Passport/Regular LTR
Rptr 18 463.9000 Passport/Regular LTR
Rptr 19 452.2750 Regular LTR Home Channel
Rptr ?? 461.9500 Passport
Rptr ?? 462.1750 Passport Registration Channel

Site 100
451.2250 Passport
452.1500 Passport
452.8250 Passport
462.1250 Passport Registration Channel
463.7250 Passport

Site 101 WPVQ885 LTR Area 0
Rptr 1 451.4000 Regular LTR Home Channel / Passport
Rptr 2 452.0750 Regular LTR Home Channel / Passport
Rptr 4 ????????
Rptr 5 ????????
Rptr 6 ????????
Rptr ?? 452.6750 Passport Registration Channel
Rptr ?? 452.8500 Passport
Rptr ?? 453.0000 Passport

Site 102
464.3000 Passport
464.6750 Passport Registration Channel

Talkgroups Monitored
Site 90
0-1-82
0-1-92
0-1-97
0-5-65
0-5-80
0-5-81
0-19-10 Security
0-19-11 Security

Site 101
0-1-20
0-2-90

73 Eric
 
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N1YKT said:
I will have to say that Bruce Marcus is one of the most awsome people in this world. Enough of the bashing we all make mistakes, what the heck.

Vomit. :shock: :? :x :twisted: :evil: :roll: :?:
 

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I came across something the other day, which showed Voicelink as more of a nationwide company/group/whatever. I don't think Marcus actually owns it...outside of maybe a franchise...?

I want to say it was headquartered somewhere out west.
 

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Will the new Radioshack Pro 2051 trunk the foxwoods system?
 

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• 800MHz triple-trunking trunks Motorola, LTR and GE/Ericsson (EDACS) police/fire emergency systems

It will trunktrack the LTR systems but not the Passport part (minor)

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Hello,

Most of the activity on the system is Regular LTR so it can be tracked with a scanner that trunktracks LTR. Just enter the LCNs from 1 to 20. Some of the Museum LCNs are not known at this time. The Casino site is the busiest.

During the recent Tropo openings I was able to receive Site 101 from the Boston Area and noticed there is some Passport LTR activity. I was able to hear talkgroups 90-63795 and 90-63796 on 452.675 MHz with Radio IDs of 90-1226, 90-1267, 90-1269 and 90-1273. I do not know the purpose of the two talkgroups. It appears Site 90 (Casino) is the home site but unfortunely I was not receiving Site 90 to see if the groups where also on that site as well.

73 Eric
 

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63795 is maintainence for the new golf course. There hasn't been much other activity on 101. That TG was simulcast on 90.

I am not sure what you had for the latest info but after my last radio trip down there (with another hobbyist) I ended up with this:
Foxwoods LTR/Passport Systems

Casino

Site 90 (005a) - Passport
Freq Ch #
461.9500 956
462.1750 974 Home & Affiliation w/ sites 100, 101, 102.
463.8750 1110
463.9000 1112
464.6250 1170

Site 90 Talkgroups
63795 Golf Course Maint

Conventional LTR (area code 0)
LCN Freq
01 451.8250
05 451.4250
07 461.2500
12 461.9500
13 463.8750
15 461.8250
17 464.6250
18 463.9000
19 452.2750

Museum

Site 100 (0064) - Passport
Freq Ch #
452.1500 172
462.1250 970 Affiliation w/ sites 90, 101, 102.

Conventional LTR (area code 1)
LCN Freq
01 451.2250
03 452.8250
04 464.2000 ?
05 452.1500

PD / Bus

Site 101 (0065) - Passport
Freq Ch #
452.6750 214 Home & Affiliation w/sites 90, 100, 102
452.8500 228
453.0000 240

Conventional LTR (area code 0)
LCN Freq
01 451.4000
02 452.0750
04 452.8500
05 453.0000
06 464.6000

Site 102 (0066) - Passport
Freq Ch #
464.3000? 1144
464.6750 1174 Affiliation w/ sites 90, 100, 101.

chris
 

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What antenna will give me the best reception for this system? (Preferebly an indoor, and if an outdoor something small and reasonably priced.)

Thanks.

-Jake
 

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That question cannot be answered easily. Location, receiver & antenna & coax quality, etc make a difference.
Can you get any of the signal right now? An inside antenna may make an existing signal better but usually will not make other stuff appear well enough to enjoy listening to.
Simple radio shack outside antennas will help IF supplied by a quality coax with connectors properly installed.
Try trunktracking the system from an upper floor of the house facing the target. If that helps, it is probably worth the extra effort to bring that signal elsewhere in the house.

chris
 

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Does anybody have a solid list of the TGs. EG what TG does the Tribal Police, Fire and EMS use?

Correction: I got Foxwoods and Moeghan Confused. Moeghan is totally untrackable by scanner. Blah.
 
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