Medic One Ambulance Frequencies Used

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There has been conflicting information concerning Medic One, I would like clarification if anyone can shed some light on this, in the Butler County section of the RR database it states that Medic One abandoned VHF and UHF in favor of FirstNet, however I have personally observed this to be false as I have observed them being paged and operating on VHF frequencies in various Counties in Southeast Missouri and Northeast Arkansas as well as operating on MOSWIN and AWIN. Anyone really know for sure what the story is? I will continue to submit data as I hear it and observed today 3-15-2024, Medic One being paged and responding to Lawerence County Arkansas, on 154.415 with a PL tone 131.8, this is Lawerence County Fire/EMS/Paging/Interop. I have also observed Medic One Operating on VHF in Ripley County Missouri on the Fire/EMS/Interop channel on 154.130 and I have observed them operating on other systems as well in other counties.
 

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I would say they are using a mix of communications depending on the situation. Some of the newer technology does not always work all the time especially with the terrain here in the Ozarks so most agencies still keep their legacy systems as backup if they're smart.

In my area near Ft Wood there seems to be a mix of paging and operating on different modes. Some will page "simultaneously" on analog as well as MOSWIN, and continue ops on which ever mode they are answered on. As far as patient reports, unless it is to update a Air Med before arrival most of that is handled with whatever method they are using (which can be a mix of laptops, tablets and phones or radios) over FirstNet which is a first responder cellular provider.
The more technology evolves the more of a "mixed bag" there is of interoperability. Seems being "interoperable" has gotten so far out of hand that as a rural fire dept dispatcher and "radio person" what used to be as simple as going to "mutual aid channel" is now "do you want that on MOSWIN, V-Fire etc, or that agencies private channel"
 

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Medic One in the St. Louis are has recently used DMR for dispatching. However, lately, their known channel for up here has been quiet. Maybe things have changed. I also have heard that Medic One has been purchased by another company. Not sure which one. I understand that Medic One is more popular in Arkansas than Missouri.
 

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I hear them on both sides of the boarder AR/MO and I monitor all EMS and 911 frequencies in the surrounding area. they are most definitely using a mixed bag of coms, and almost every mode that is out there Analog/NXDN/DMR/P25 Phase 1 and 2/LTR, seems to be no end to the modes they operate on nor the range of frequencies. If they did merge with another company that would explain some of it.
 

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I would say they are using a mix of communications depending on the situation. Some of the newer technology does not always work all the time especially with the terrain here in the Ozarks so most agencies still keep their legacy systems as backup if they're smart.

In my area near Ft Wood there seems to be a mix of paging and operating on different modes. Some will page "simultaneously" on analog as well as MOSWIN, and continue ops on which ever mode they are answered on. As far as patient reports, unless it is to update a Air Med before arrival most of that is handled with whatever method they are using (which can be a mix of laptops, tablets and phones or radios) over FirstNet which is a first responder cellular provider.
The more technology evolves the more of a "mixed bag" there is of interoperability. Seems being "interoperable" has gotten so far out of hand that as a rural fire dept dispatcher and "radio person" what used to be as simple as going to "mutual aid channel" is now "do you want that on MOSWIN, V-Fire etc, or that agencies private channel"
Well, that being said maybe they are using something like this impressive transceiver which would integrate it all together: https://www.motorolasolutions.com/content/dam/msi/Products/apx-next1/apx-next-data-sheet.pdf
 
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I did find this online. I hope the link works.
Yeah I was looking over the WLRC Medical website and it does show the four ambulance services they operate on the East Coast, impressive, I also looked over each of the four on their respective webpages, they serve very large areas, and I looked them up on RR and they have various licenses over multiple system types, I can see how all this ties in, I would like to know more about what equipment they actually use, what HT's and what kind of consoles and such, but that will take a lot more digging.
 

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Yeah I was looking over the WLRC Medical website and it does show the four ambulance services they operate on the East Coast, impressive, I also looked over each of the four on their respective webpages, they serve very large areas, and I looked them up on RR and they have various licenses over multiple system types, I can see how all this ties in, I would like to know more about what equipment they actually use, what HT's and what kind of consoles and such, but that will take a lot more digging.
Medic One has their own dispatch based in Jonesboro, AR which dispatch for all Arkansas and Missouri Ambulances. Local Counties/cities 911 centers may page the medic one ambulances on the county or city owned frequencies and communicate with the ambulances on these frequencies. However, Each unit still has to communicate with the main Jonesboro dispatch and advise where they are going, mileage, etc. Some Counties they transfer EMS calls straight to Medic One Dispatch, other counties they dispatch medic one ambulances out on their own. Essentially the Ambulances have to communicate with local and their main dispatch. Their Main Dispatch runs the Sonim XM 5's from Firstnet so you wont be able to hear those.
 

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Medic One has their own dispatch based in Jonesboro, AR which dispatch for all Arkansas and Missouri Ambulances. Local Counties/cities 911 centers may page the medic one ambulances on the county or city owned frequencies and communicate with the ambulances on these frequencies. However, Each unit still has to communicate with the main Jonesboro dispatch and advise where they are going, mileage, etc. Some Counties they transfer EMS calls straight to Medic One Dispatch, other counties they dispatch medic one ambulances out on their own. Essentially the Ambulances have to communicate with local and their main dispatch. Their Main Dispatch runs the Sonim XM 5's from Firstnet so you wont be able to hear those.
Yeah I get that you can't hear those goofy XM'5's because they are on the cellular network, but I just said the info on them only using the XM'5's was wrong because I hear them all the time on various frequencies so they have not "abandoned", Key word, ABANDONED, using VHF and UHF frequencies nor have they abandoned using AWIN or MOSWIN. the info on the Butler county RR is wrong because it says abandoned using VHF & UHF!!! THEY HAVE NOT!!!! It needs to be changed because that info is incorrect. it should say that they use the XM 5's which can't be monitored but also still using local and state wide coms. OMG. LOL sorry I just don't like it when things are wrong not trying to rant or anything LOL.
 

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Yeah I get that you can't hear those goofy XM'5's because they are on the cellular network, but I just said the info on them only using the XM'5's was wrong because I hear them all the time on various frequencies so they have not "abandoned", Key word, ABANDONED, using VHF and UHF frequencies nor have they abandoned using AWIN or MOSWIN. the info on the Butler county RR is wrong because it says abandoned using VHF & UHF!!! THEY HAVE NOT!!!! It needs to be changed because that info is incorrect. it should say that they use the XM 5's which can't be monitored but also still using local and state wide coms. OMG. LOL sorry I just don't like it when things are wrong not trying to rant or anything LOL.
Oh, and by the way if they have abandoned all other coms except for the XM'5, someone please explain to me how they can be observed talking to almost every single dispatcher in Southeast Missouri and Northeast Arkansas. And the traffic is not being relayed to the dispatch in Jonesboro I know better, they are responding directly with county dispatches on Analog radio and on other systems directly not relayed.
 

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In the St. Louis area they had been on UHF DMR, but I have not heard too much, if anything, from them for a while.
That is a long way from Butler County, I have no idea how they operate there, but given that it probably has good cell coverage in that area they use FirstNet as primary, and maybe in other cities they also use their FirstNet as primary, but when operating in rural areas where that FirstNet has zero signal, they have to rely on other systems either VHF-UHF or the MOSWIN P25 system, all I am trying to get across to everyone is that the info of them totally abandoned other forms of comms is false and it should not read that way anywhere in the RR database. If an database admin is reading this please change that false info in the Butler County area, thanks.
 
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