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Because of the lack of Information and ongoing learning curve in Mesa County, I thought a new thread is in order.

MESA MAC ----Group ----8430 ----D ----THIS TG IS A MESA COUNTY MUTUAL AID CH.
GRAND JCT POLICE ----Group ----8431 ----D ----THIS TG IS A GRAND JUNCTION LAW DISPATCH
MESA SHERIFF ----Group ----8432 ----D ----THIS TG IS A COUNTY WIDE LAW DISPATCH
GJ POLICE-DATA ----Group ---- 8433 ----D ----THIS TG IS USED TO CHECK WANTS-WARRANTS
GJ INVESTIGATION ----Group ----8434 ----E ----THIS TG HAS NOT BEEN VERIFIED YET
W COL. DRUG TASK ----Group ----8435 ----E ----THIS TG IS USED BY DEA and LOCAL LAW
JCT-MAC TAC-1 ----Group ---- 8436 ----0 ----THIS TG IS USED BY PD-FIRE-SO-ETC.
JCT-MAC TAC-2 ----Group ----8437 ----D ----THIS TG IS USED BY PD-FIRE-SO-ETC.
JCT-MAC TAC-3 ----Group ----8438 ----D ----THIS TG IS USED BY PD-FIRE-SO-ETC.
JCT-PD TAC-4 ----Group ----8439 ----E ----THIS TG IS USED ONLY BY LAW ENFORCEMENT
JCT-PD TAC-5 ----Group ----8440 ----E ----THIS TG IS USED ONLY BY LAW ENFORCEMENT -----SOMETIMES SWAT ETC
GJ FIRE DISPATCH ----Group ---- 8441 ----D ----THIS TG IS FOR GRAND JUNCTION CITY FIRE ONLY
MESA CAR-TO-CAR ----Group ----8456 ---- D ----THIS TG IS CAR-TO-CAR MESA CO SO ENCRYPTED USE

The above partial list is after hours of sleepless nights,on location surveys, and the help of law and fire friends.
 
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Additional 117XX Talkgroups

Here is information on additional 117XX series talkgroups. These all appear to be tactical TGs for fire departments, and are likely not encrypted.

As nearly all of these departments are currently still using VHF for their operations, it's unknown as to a time frame for their use. However, having them in a scan list, and monitoring their usage, may be a clue to when a department is preparing to use the DTR on a more consistent basis.

While GJFD appears to have a TG assigned in this group, no usage has been detected on it thus far.

11750 Central Orchard Mesa FD
11751 Clifton FD
11752 Debeque FD
11753 East Orchard Mesa FD
11754 Gateway-Unaweep FD
11755 Grand Junction FD (?)
11756 Glade Park FD
11757 Lands End FD
11758 Lower Valley FD
11759 Palisade FD
11760 Plateau Valley FD

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MESA CAR-TO-CAR ----Group ----8456 ---- D ----THIS TG IS CAR-TO-CAR MESA CO SO ENCRYPTED USE

Last night on two separate occasions I monitored encrypted traffic on TG 8446, immediately after one Fruita PD unit on TG 8432 advised another to "meet me on Fruita".

It's possible that 8446 is an encrypted car-to-car TG for the Fruita PD, much in the same way that 8456 serves Mesa County SO. Adjacent TGs to these may serve the same encrypted car-to-car function for other law agencies in the county.

John MNN-009 N3RTS
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GJFD Completely Off of Fire A?

As of this afternoon, it appears that GJFD is no longer dumping paging tones on Fire A, or simulcasting its dispatches there. A single 1000 Hz alert tone on TG 8441, followed by the call information, is all that appears to be happening.

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It appears that GJPD's encrypted car to car TG is 8443. A couple of requests to "go to channel 2" were followed by activity there.
 

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It's beginning to come together;

8430 Mesa County MAC
8431 Grand Junction PD Dispatch
8432 Mesa County SO Dispatch
8433 Grand Junction PD Data Ch-3 -ENC-
8434 Grand Junction PD Investigations Ch-4
8435 Western Colo Drug Task Force Ch-5 -ENC-
8436 Junction MAC Tac-1 all agencies
8437 Junction MAC Tac-2 all agencies
8438 Junction MAC Tac-3 all agencies
8439 Junction MAC Tac-4 law enforcement only
8440 Junction MAC Tac-5 law enforcement only
8441 Grand Junction FD Dispatch
8442 Grand Junction
8443 Grand Junction PD Tac -ENC-
8444 Grand Junction
8445 Colbran Law -ENC-
8446 Fruita Car to Car -ENC-
8447 Grand Junction EMS Ch-3
8448 Mesa County SO Jail Ch-1
8449 Mesa County SO Jail Ch-2
8450 Mesa County SO Courthouse Security -ENC-
8451 Mesa County SO Inmate Transport
8452 Mesa County SO SAR
8453 Mesa County SO Rural Area SAR -ENC-
8454 Mesa County SO Command Staff
8455 Mesa County SO Investigations - ENC
8456 Mesa County SO Car to Car -ENC-
8457 Mesa County SO Training and TAC
8458 Mesa County Road and Bridge
8459 Mesa County Road and Bridge

11750 Central Orchard Mesa FD Tac
11751 Clifton FD Tac
11752 Debeque FD Tac
11753 East Orchard Mesa FD Tac
11754 Gateway-Unaweep FD Tac
11755 Grand Junction FD Tac
11756 Glade Park FD Tac
11757 Lands End FD Tac
11758 Lower Valley FD Tac
11759 Palisade FD Tac
11760 Plateau Valley FD Tac

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Add to the end of the list,
11762 Colorado National Monument LE Car to Car

Verified by recording
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8439 Junction MAC Tac-4 law enforcement only ENCRYPTED
8440 Junction MAC Tac-5 law enforcement only ENCRYPTED
8453 Mesa County SO Rural Area Deputies (RAD) George Units ENCRYPTED
 

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Great Interoperability Training

The GJFD is conducting fire training with other area departments today. The scenario appears to be an interior attack with SCBA in use, mayday calls, and FFs down.

This training is being conducted on DTR TG 8436, Incident Tac 1, cross-patched to 151.1075, GJFD 'Fire C'. The audio has been crisp and intelligible across the analog and digital systems, despite the muffled and muted audio associated with SCBA and its associated effects on console patches. It's unknown if this patch is straight VOX or something more reliable.

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On Friday April 30 State and Local Law and Fire agencies had a DUI Drill at Grand Junction High School
Fire & Care-flight Operated on Simplex-2 and Fire Ground. State Patrol went to there State Simplex-2 and could not communicate with them. Anyone know what these Simplex Freq. Are?
Grand Junction Fire Ground
Grand Junction simplex-1
Grand Junction simplex-2
Grand Junction simplex-3
Grand Junction simplex-4
Grand Junction simplex-5
 

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Likely either the standard DTRS simplex.

3 Watts or Less NAC293 -- outside of ElPaso & Teller Counties
State DTRS SMPX1 851.1000 NAC 293 Public Safety Only
State DTRS SMPX2 851.7500 NAC 293 Public Safety Only
State DTRS SMPX3 852.3000 NAC 293 Public Safety Only
State DTRS SMPX4 852.5500 NAC 293 Non Public Safety & Public Safety
State DTRS SMPX5 853.6875 NAC 293 Non Public Safety & Public Safety

If not there, they could be using the 700 MHz freq's.

State Analog is probably 853.625, but I've not caught anyone on there since rebanding to confirm.
 

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I did capture a small amount of traffic on Simplex 1 and 2 from the exercise yesterday. The helo did come up on STAC 5 for a bit as well
853.7875
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Talk group name use notes
8436 g.j. Tac-1 multi-tac used by all agencies in mesa county
8437 g.j. Tac-2 multi-tac used by all agencies in mesa county
8438 g.j. Tac-3 multi-tac used by all agencies in mesa county
8437 g.j. Tac-4 law-tac used by only law enforcement encripted
8438 g.j. Tac-5 law-tac used by only law enforcement encripted
note: Tac-4 or 5 can be used by swat-dea-street crimes or any other special units
or incident tac-4 and 5 are not programed in any fire radios.for law only.

The following tg are not being used or have use change or not verified (nv)

talk group name use notes
8442 nv
8443 gj pd ch-2 car-car this tg is used encrypted by gjpd
8444 nv
8445 fruita pd tac car-car this tg is used encrypted by fruita pd
8447 nv
8453 mesa so rad car-car this tg is used by rural area deputies
8456 mesa so tac car-car this tg is used encrypted by mesa so

note: All car-car tac are encripted and are not programed in the com center
 

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Talk group name use notes
8436 g.j. Tac-1 multi-tac used by all agencies in mesa county
8437 g.j. Tac-2 multi-tac used by all agencies in mesa county
8438 g.j. Tac-3 multi-tac used by all agencies in mesa county
8437 g.j. Tac-4 law-tac used by only law enforcement encripted
8438 g.j. Tac-5 law-tac used by only law enforcement encripted
note: Tac-4 or 5 can be used by swat-dea-street crimes or any other special units
or incident tac-4 and 5 are not programed in any fire radios.for law only.

The following tg are not being used or have use change or not verified (nv)

talk group name use notes
8442 nv
8443 gj pd ch-2 car-car this tg is used encrypted by gjpd
8444 nv
8445 fruita pd tac car-car this tg is used encrypted by fruita pd
8447 nv
8453 mesa so rad car-car this tg is used by rural area deputies
8456 mesa so tac car-car this tg is used encrypted by mesa so

note: All car-car tac are encripted and are not programed in the com center
 

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Assuming Tac 4 and 5 should be 8439 & 8440? encrypted.

8437 g.j. Tac-4 law-tac used by only law enforcement encripted
8438 g.j. Tac-5 law-tac used by only law enforcement encripted

I also have

8445 Colbran Law -ENC-
8446 Fruita Car to Car -ENC-

has that changed?

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**OOPS CORRECTION FROM ABOVE POST LATE NIGHTS CAUGHT UP WITH ME***
Talk group name use notes
8436 g.j. Tac-1 multi-tac used by all agencies in mesa county
8437 g.j. Tac-2 multi-tac used by all agencies in mesa county
8438 g.j. Tac-3 multi-tac used by all agencies in mesa county
8439 g.j. Tac-4 law-tac used by only law enforcement encripted
8440 g.j. Tac-5 law-tac used by only law enforcement encripted
note: Tac-4 or 5 can be used by swat-dea-street crimes or any other special units
or incident in mesa county tac-4 and 5 are not programed in any fire radios.for law only.

The following tg are not being used or have use change or not verified (nv)

talk group name use notes
8442 nv
8443 gj pd ch-2 car-car this tg is used encrypted by gjpd
8444 nv
8445 COLBRAN tac car-car this tg is used encrypted by colbran marshals
8446 FRUITA TAC car-car this tg is used encrypted by fruita pd
8447 nv
8453 mesa so rad car-car this tg is used encrypted by rural area deputies
8456 mesa so tac car-car this tg is used encrypted by mesa SO

note: All car-car tac are encripted and are not programed in the com center
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GJ Regional Airport licenses 800 MHz Conventional

GJ Regional Airport has licensed two conventional 800 MHz repeaters. These will likely replace the narrowband VHF repeater and simplex channel currently in use.

GP WQLX610
GRAND JUNCTION REGIONAL AIRPORT
[WE ARE A AIRPORT OPERATION.]
Control Point 1 - 2828 WALKER FIELD DR, GRAND JUNCTION CO 970-248-8597
(link)
05/19/2010 License Issued
1 - 288828 WALKER FIELD DRIVE, GRAND JUNCTION (MESA) CO (map)
854.9875 FB2 100p 150e 20K0F3E 20K0F1D
855.9875 FB2 100p 150e 20K0F3E 20K0F1D
2 - (MESA) CO 80.0 km radius around fixed location 1
854.9875 MO 35p 35e 20K0F3E 20K0F1D
809.9875 MO 35p 35e 20K0F3E 20K0F1D
855.9875 MO 35p 35e 20K0F3E 20K0F1D
810.9875 MO 35p 35e 20K0F3E 20K0F1D
3 - (MESA) CO Land Mobile Control Station Meeting 20 Rule
809.9875 FX1 35p 35e 20K0F3E 20K0F1D
810.9875 FX1 35p 35e 20K0F3E 20K0F1D

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I am currently looking to purchase the Uniden Bearcat BC890XLT is this sufficent enough to monitor the Grand Junction Police Department and the Mesa County Sheriffs Department? I am lost my old scanner was not digital by any means. Please help if you can rextv@bresnan.net
 

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I am currently looking to purchase the Uniden Bearcat BC890XLT is this sufficent enough to monitor the Grand Junction Police Department and the Mesa County Sheriffs Department? I am lost my old scanner was not digital by any means. Please help if you can rextv@bresnan.net
No that will not work for you on the DTRS but the Pro-106/197 are going on-sale tomorrow for only $350.

Also great online feed available for your area as well if needed.

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No that will not work for you on the DTRS but the Pro-106/197 are going on-sale tomorrow for only $350.

Also great online feed available for your area as well if needed.

Jim<
Do you happen to know of any cheaper models that will do it for my area? how do you know which one your area requires I have been looking and reading and looking and reading I cannot seem to get a these will work site for cheap
 
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