Metro Net Frequency Changes?

[KR4BFV_motorola_guy]

I have had confirmed emails back in forth with Chief Finnesy which I am not sure if he is still fire chief. We all knew like 6 or 7 years ago now when they switched from their Motorola TYPE II system in Analog and switched over FDMA Trunking Phase I all fire radios were programmed with the old fleet map and the new fleetmap. The new fleet map were all strapped with AES-256 moving forward.

The chief at that time said he would turn off all the encryption on one of the social media sites and I would have to find it again or its way back in the thread that I posted.

I will tell you and I told the chief that OC has access to OTAP and OTAR. I guarantee they do not have to hand touch any radios at this point with technology. If they are all making these changes with METRO NET and making changes in 2026 The County of Orange is not hand touching radios anymore. I think The County of Orange between LE and FIRE have over 20K radios with portables and mobiles all together.

NO WAY THEY ARE HAND TOUCHING ALL RADIOS ANYMORE. With 5G and WIFI and newer Flash Feature sets its not happening. I even showed him diagrams of OTAP AND OTAR on what is being done and he said it was the safety issues after that church shooting I believe and that they did not have budget money to hand touch all FIRE radios.

Now if Radio Comms is so far behind in technology then there is a management issue in techology on why any department on a trunked system should ever hand touch a radio these days unless there is a major hardware issue or a radio has an old flashcode and the AES-256 just is not working correctly with their radio ID's.

Also, I said The County has reserved and paid call fire guys and RACES programs and volunteer programs and didn't care. Now you are starting to see just a bad decision to encrypt the FIRE departments and went accross the whole board and AES-256 strapped every talkgroup.

There is not one FIRE Department in The State of California that encrypts FIRE but they wanted everything to be quiet. I am pretty they will never look back unless its so cost effective that no hand touching and does not cost budget money. Who really knows as this has been so long now and the chief just lied to all of us. It was on Twitter on video of him saying all FIRE would be un encrypted and NOPE never happened.

Also, one last note and this is logical and will make sense to the average normal person. Okay if they wanted all strapping of AES-256 then they wanted encryption. Okay then we all get it and then no delay on broadcasting it on the internet. Now if you are streaming on the internet then the whole wide world can listen now in a delayed fashion. My point is now the whole world can listen online.

Take off all of AES-256 and no broadcasting online. I know there is some control issues that need to happen and turn off offical feeds necessary. Now you have what in the world like 7 billion people. I am not saying all would listen but the ability now for 7 billion people who have internet access can listen online.

Just my thoughts and had mutiple discussions and emails back and forth to the OCFA Chief about this but never happened. Probably retired now collecting a huge pension but they all pay into the fund and put his 30 years of service in and bye bye. Next Chief deal with this issue

I still think it’s insane that they don’t want people hearing their traffic, but they still have PulsePoint with physical addresses and broadcast for Radio traffic, it kind of defeats the whole purpose

 

[LB_Scan]

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What the difference between a scanner and broadcasting it on the internet. Its bad enough with news crews without using a scanner to cover brush fires in oc. What dose news crews have walkie talkies that OCFD using to talk on. How people get any info on the brush fires in there own back yards if its not on local news tv channel. I guest OC dose not care if people burn alive or killed in OC.

I say the next scanner will have is unlock the encryption on the new scanners that they should have.

 

[Engine104]

I still think it’s insane that they don’t want people hearing their traffic, but they still have PulsePoint with physical addresses and broadcast for Radio traffic, it kind of defeats the whole purpose

Right...PulsePoint here in L.A. for the LAFD does not show medical aid calls at all. I think the streaming delay for OCFA is around 2 minutes?

 

[tkenny53]

Some of OC brush fires revert to CalFire Freq's as they may come in to assist.

 

[nealberke]

Some of OC brush fires revert to CalFire Freq's as they may come in to assist.

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Hi

What the difference between a scanner and broadcasting it on the internet. Its bad enough with news crews without using a scanner to cover brush fires in oc. What dose news crews have walkie talkies that OCFD using to talk on. How people get any info on the brush fires in there own back yards if its not on local news tv channel. I guest OC dose not care if people burn alive or killed in OC.

I say the next scanner will have is unlock the encryption on the new scanners that they should have.

Does anyone know why we cannot hear any of the CITY fire departments on Metro Cities? All TAC's are silent as is the CITY dispatch? Yet, OCFA dispatch is running fine.

 

[kf6nfd]

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Does anyone know why we cannot hear any of the CITY fire departments on Metro Cities? All TAC's are silent as is the CITY dispatch? Yet, OCFA dispatch is running fine.

They are showing as offline. Wondering what’s going on

 

[marcotor]

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Does anyone know why we cannot hear any of the CITY fire departments on Metro Cities? All TAC's are silent as is the CITY dispatch? Yet, OCFA dispatch is running fine.

You might ask this question in the proper forum - Broadcastify Administration

Remember Metro is a JPA, and has little to do with OCFA

 

[mkielsmeierhb]

They are showing as offline. Wondering what’s going on

All of Metronet has been down for 3 days so who knows