1325 EDT TABOO56 RTB - completed with refueling of SNTRY25
Total offload - 63.1 K of fuel over 4 total hookups
Total offload - 63.1 K of fuel over 4 total hookups
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The relay audio on 228.900 is rough. Female voice, Huntress ground is somewhat distorted to me. Many repeats. I do like the relay though, did not hear ground station in past. I believe I hear background voices too. This is new. Lot’s of big numbers on gas being passed around, not FJ quantities either.
Resync of radar with ground sites through HUNTRESS now that they are back in their orbit.
Once the AWACS leaves the area - the relay will ( if my guess is correct ) will disappear. The background voices are the other controllers and staff at NORAD facility - just like you would hear at ARTCC. Basically the AWACS is dedicating a radio to monitor 260.900 and anything that radio hears is repeated on 228.900
Yes currently a female controller on HUNTRESS
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Looks like POTUS AF1 backup is in the air, or possibly AF1 headed to KMMU
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Looks like change in times just posted so departing an hour or so earlier? Maybe inbound rain?Looks like POTUS AF1 backup is in the air, or possibly AF1 headed to KMMU
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Huntress just says only one more Noble A/R scheduled for the day.
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Looks like change in times just posted so departing an hour or so earlier? Maybe inbound rain?
VP TFR extended into tomorrow in Middleburg, VA
Calling out TOI tracks goes on all day long while the CAP is up.
Was away from my radio for awhile but agree that the audio is not as strong as it was earlier today.
Looks like they are now on the ground at KMMU and I see N6NJ (NJSP chopper) was circling but now also at KMMU so I guess thats almost the end of the fun for the weekend.Looks like POTUS AF1 backup is in the air, or possibly AF1 headed to KMMU
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228.900 really strong for me at the tail end of the CAP, hearing ground station HUNTRESS and WINK35 coordinating entering KIWIE AAR. Where are these ground stations usually based at? Never had this strong of a relay in the past few CAPs, SNTRY25 really helping out here.
I think he was just referring to the AWACS coming back into the orbit - not HUNTRESS calling out TOI.
They usually coordinate the sync ops on AICC 364.200 since it is a separate operation, I am guessing NORAD is blending the AWACS radar feed into the ground network so they do not miss anything.
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The German airspace control agency DFS Deutsche Flugsicherung has a very cool website showing
military aircraft on IFR flights over Germany ... this is the radar track for RETRO 51 over the Netherlands
from last Tuesday, audio is mine .....
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military aircraft on IFR flights over Germany ... this is the radar track for RETRO 51 over the Netherlands
from last Tuesday, audio is mine .....
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That is correct thanks. The operation today was very different from past CAP’s.
1615 EDT Well they are having a discussion between NOBLE and HUNTRESS about suspect tracks that HUNTRESS is not calling up to the fighters. The fighters asked the AWACS if they were sending TOIs and controller on AWACS confirmed they were not. So AWACS is simply operating in a passive mode feeding radar data but not interacting with the intercept process.
NOBLE told HUNTRESS - if we see something and you do not call it out - we are going to tell you about it. HUNTRESS is investigating
Okay they are still discussing - HUNTRESS says fighters have an issue - and the fighter lead is saying you have the issue. Fighter recommeded to send three tracks to the fighters - one friendly - one suspect - and one " I wont use the other word - but an H track" Lets guess Hijack !!
NOBLE in red - HUNTRESS in blue
NOBLE told HUNTRESS - if we see something and you do not call it out - we are going to tell you about it. HUNTRESS is investigating
Okay they are still discussing - HUNTRESS says fighters have an issue - and the fighter lead is saying you have the issue. Fighter recommeded to send three tracks to the fighters - one friendly - one suspect - and one " I wont use the other word - but an H track" Lets guess Hijack !!
NOBLE in red - HUNTRESS in blue
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They have been bringing the AWACS into the process with the CAPS for the stays at NJ residence. Probably concerned with low altitude threats under NORAD radar coverage. Only issue is that the AWACS uses a lot of fuel (older engines) and they have to be refueled in order to maintain that coverage. Not sure if this occurs or occured in Florida - but if yes then probably the same function.
AWACS confirmed they are pushing tracks that NORAD cannot see and doing radio relay. Well that answers that question.
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Heard the same - WIZARD also advised that they are showing multiple "friendly" or "neutral" tracks which NOBLE advised were showing as "suspect" in the cockpit (at least thats the way I understood, technical discussion traveling much too fast for my Railroad Brain). NOBLE stated that they were seeing multiple tracks yesterday outside the 30 but first time inside the 30.
Now working through some sort of test "can you drop three stationary land tracks, one neutral, one friendly, and I won't use the other word but H1"
"NOBLE to WIZARD, just want to confirm, are you actually contributing to the surveillance picture out here or are you just here as a contingency?" "affirm we're doing track by exception with the sector." "ok - I think I know what that means, thanks."
2030 EDT SNTRY25 (WIZARD ALPHA) RTB is now leaving their orbit - so lets see if the comms on 228.900 start to disappear as they head westbound. We already know the answer since the female controller on the AWACS confimed the radio relay mission tasking.
Another good one when HUNTRESS gave NOBLE a TOI and the NOBLE was passed a ATC freq of 120.850 but HUNTRESS controller kept giving them 208.50 - they NOBLE advised her that 208.50 is not a VHF frequency - I am sure he passed the data correctly but it was interesting conversation.
Another good one when HUNTRESS gave NOBLE a TOI and the NOBLE was passed a ATC freq of 120.850 but HUNTRESS controller kept giving them 208.50 - they NOBLE advised her that 208.50 is not a VHF frequency - I am sure he passed the data correctly but it was interesting conversation.
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