Mid-Atlantic Digital Radio network - Connect Plus system 141

[mtindor]

Yowsa, big pictures. Big signals. Sure looks like it's in your back yard. Of course, given your setup I'm sure you get 5 bars on your scanner from a pretty fair distance. Thanks for sharing.

Mike

 

[u2brent]

Sorry about the confusing names. I just copied them directly from the MADRN map and the site numbers were guesses. I did correct a spelling error "New Cumberlin"
Catawissa is not on the map.. I did update Mehoopany.

?? Ogletown
54 Church Hill
53 Salisbury
48 Mehoopany
49 Egg Harbor City
52 Dagsboro
43 Waynesboro
?? Wilkes Barre
46 Ashland
45 Boyertown
47 Hazelton
41 Pittston
25 Broadtop
30 State College
12 Northumberland
29 Rochester Mills
28 Johnstown
27 Blairsville
26 Altoona
23 Newport
24 Tannersville
20 Lewistown
19 Phillipsburg
21 Williamsport
18 Philadelphia
16 Allentown
14 Concordville
08 Hanover
02 Cornwall
11 Rawlinsville
17 Red Lion
09 Shippensburg
01 Harrisburg
04 York
?? Quarryville (?13?)
07 New Cumberland
03 Malvern
22 Lancaster City
05 Honeybrook
15 Reading
10 Summit Station
06 New Holland

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MID-ATLANTIC
Digital Radio Network
For Informational Purposes Only

Still not sure about Q-ville being 13 though.
this is my whole list with the name variations..FWIW

(MAD 01) Harrisburg-North/Dauphin (WHP)
(MAD 02) Cornwall/Lebanon (Penn Twp/Lancaster)
(MAD 03) Malvern/Chester (Lionville)
(MAD 04) York/York (Rocky Ridge)
(MAD 05) Honeybrook/Chester (W Caln Twp)
(MAD 06) New Holland/Lancaster (Welsh Mtn/Salisbury Twp)
(MAD 07) Harrisburg-South/York (Reeser Summit/Fairview Twp/New Cumberland)
(MAD 08) Hanover/York
(MAD 09) Shippensburg/Franklin (Sherman Mtn)
(MAD 10) Summit Station/Schuylkill (Wayne Twp)
(MAD 11) Rawlinsville/Lancaster (Holtwood)
(MAD 12) Northumberland/Columbia (Bloomsburg/Montour Ridge)
(MAD 13) Quarryville?/Lancaster? (Gap)?
(MAD 14) Concordville/Delaware
(MAD 15) Reading/Berks (Lower Alsace)
(MAD 16) Allentown/Lehigh (Salisbury Twp)
(MAD 17) Red Lion?/York? Berks?
(MAD 18) Philadelphia/Philadelphia (WPHL CH17)
(MAD 19) Phillipsburg/Centre (Black Moshannon/Julian)
(MAD 20) Lewistown/Mifflin (Hawstone/Centre)
(MAD 21) Williamsport/Lycoming (/Centre)
(MAD 22) Lancaster?/Lancaster? (LRMC)
(MAD 23) Newport/Perry
(MAD 24) Tannersville/Monroe (Camelback)
(MAD 25) Pine Grove Mills/Huntingdon (Broadtop/Centre)
(MAD 26) Altoona/Blair (Wopsy Mtn)
(MAD 27) Blairsville/Indiana (Penn View)
(MAD 28) Johnstown/Cambria
(MAD 29) Rochester Mills/Indiana
(MAD 30) State College/Centre (Little Flat/Boalsburg)
(MAD 31) /Unknown
(MAD 32) Rockton?/Clearfield?Indiana?
(MAD 33) /Cambria
(MAD 34) /Unknown
(MAD 35) /Unknown
(MAD 40) /Unknown
(MAD 41) Pittston/Luzerne (Dupont)
(MAD 42) Ebensburg?/Cambia?
(MAD 43) Waynesboro/Franklin (Quirauk/Hagerstown)
(MAD 44) Bear Creek Twp/Luzerne (Mountain Top)
(MAD 45) Boyertown/Berks
(MAD 46) Ashland/Schuylkill
(MAD 47) Hazleton/Luzerne
(MAD 48) Mehoopany/Wyoming
(MAD 49) Egg Harbor City/Atlantic NJ (Elwood)
(MAD 50) /Unknown
(MAD 51) /Unknown
(MAD 52) Dagsboro/Sussex DE (Roxana)
(MAD 53) Salisbury/Wicomico MD
(MAD 54) Church Hill/Queen Anne's MD (Starkey Corner) WQZG437
(MAD 55) Catawissa/Columbia
(MAD XX) Fawn Grove/York WPNT938

 

[u2brent]

When I scan site 13 as conventional I get 2 ch's from site 11 nothing saying 13. I'm about 8 miles south of Q-ville, will keep looking for DCC13.
I do get the con indicator but I think it's because of Rawlinsville. If you download that map and zoom way in You'll see Rawlinsville & Quarryville's Dots are on top of each other!! (Just doesn't make sense to me)
I wish MADRN would put up individual coverage maps for all the active sites, not just the latest & greatest..But thanks to Voyager Christmas has already come once this year!

Here's something folks can use in a BCDx36HP via Sentinel...

 

[u2brent]

I can confirm that..

Site 17 is indeed on the air in Red Lion CC 454.2 MHz DCC 17
Site 22 is indeed on the air in Lancaster City CC 454.2625 MHz DCC 8
Site 11 has an active CC on 454.275 MHz LCN 5 DCC 11 which should be updated in the DB to a CC at some opportunity.

Not a peep from Site 13 during my expedition, "If" it's on the air it's not from Q-ville/Gap.
Unfortunately I could not get any LCN's confirmed. I guess due to lack of system activity on a Sunday afternoon on a long Holiday weekend...

Cheers..

 

[scan-pa]

I was tracking TG 4412 today and it made me look up Rabbit Transit.

There coverage is pretty good.

rabbittransit, a regional public transportation provider, offers a variety of transportation services to the residents of Adams, Columbia, Cumberland, Franklin, Montour, Northumberland, Snyder, Union and York Counties

Since I have multiple confirmed TG for this service, I will be adding a Rabbit Transit TG Category in the DB.

 

[scan-pa]

We have confirmed lcn for sites 1 through 55. The list posted has been confirmed by a triangle radio tech. Waiting on a complete list of tg id info...

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[scan-pa]

Here is what I have so far:

4201 - RT York County Fixed Route Busses
4202 - RT York County Para Transit Vans
4203 - RT Admin
4204 - RT Share-A-Ride Vans (All Counties)
4205 - RT
4206 - RT Express Busses
4207 - RT
4208 - RT Garage / Maintenance
4209 - RT Shuttles
4210 - RT
4211 - RT
4411 - RT Franklin County Para Transit Vans
4412 - RT Snyder County / NorthUmberland County Para Transit Vans

Please post if you have any updated info. This is just from monitoring today.

 

[mtindor]

We have confirmed lcn for sites 1 through 55. The list posted has been confirmed by a triangle radio tech. Waiting on a complete list of tg id info...

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Sounds like said radio tech is looking for an easy exit strategy.

Is the radio tech suggesting that every LCN listed in the network map for every site is active? Or is he providing you a list of active LCNs? I hope it's the latter. If it's the former, I cry foul. On sites 1 through 10 alone, there are anywhere from 8 to 14 LCNs listed on those sites. I would doubt any one of those sites has 8 active LCNs let alone 14 -- that's 15-27 simultaneous talkpaths.

Mike

 

[scan-pa]

I asked him that, there future expansion when older systems are converted. So the repeaters must be in place. I hope he gets back to me, the info (if provided) could do us wonders...

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[scan-pa]

I started the conversation with the intent of needing a multi county coverage radio system for a club..

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[scan-pa]

This Radio system must be fairly new for Rabbit Transit. not to mention the scheduling software, some of these dispatchers and drivers are still learning how to use it.

 

[scan-pa]

Anyone know what there old radio system was?

Had on RT van in Northumberland Co today who was told to contact maint shop on the Maint channel, and she had no reply, so the base asked her if she was on the old radio or the new radio system, she was using the old for Maint. and she was then told to use the new radio system, thats how I found the Maint / garage tg.

 

[mtindor]

Anyone know what there old radio system was?

Had on RT van in Northumberland Co today who was told to contact maint shop on the Maint channel, and she had no reply, so the base asked her if she was on the old radio or the new radio system, she was using the old for Maint. and she was then told to use the new radio system, thats how I found the Maint / garage tg.

They have apparently been on the PADRN for the past 14 months, at least.

https://forums.radioreference.com/p...sion-forum/331702-rabbit-transit-york-pa.html

Mike

 

[scan-pa]

Just heard a franklin co. Driver asked to go drop off his van and to pick up a bus at the shop, it just got the new radio installed...

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[mtindor]

Just heard a franklin co. Driver asked to go drop off his van and to pick up a bus at the shop, it just got the new radio installed...

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A sheer guess, but they were probably on one of the gazillion LTR systems strewn throughout the state. Maybe an LTR system that wasn't documented, or a documented LTR system that nobody had discovered their particular talkgroup on.

Given the area that Rabbit Transit appears to cover, they would likely have had to make use of multiple trunked systems or conventional frequencies within the coverage area. I looked around in the DB [which I imagine you had already done], and I can't find any sign of them.

Mike

 

[scan-pa]

My thinking also Mike. Man these drivers hate the tablets and the new software... lmao, from reading, Franklin County PA transit ended last year, and now bus operations are under the RT Share a Ride program and the para transit is under RT para.

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[scan-pa]

It seams Rabbit Transit is absorbing all of the smaller counties transit systems. This radio system is perfectly suited for them.

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[u2brent]

I hope the deletion of site 11 lcn 1 454.28125 was because of other info besides my post, I was just noting that 454.275 was currently the control chan. I know they can change from time to time. I don't think anything should be changed in the confirmed RRDB until it's confirmed by boots on the ground..

http://forums.radioreference.com/mu...-connect-plus-system-141-a-7.html#post2785554

Site 17 Should be relabeled Red Lion York Co.

 

[Voyager]

And He did say not all are even equipped, just possible future provisioning.

That's a VERY important point, and one I made in my post. NONE of these frequencies should be assumed to be on the air, but used as a reference to evaluate if they are on the air.

Just because a radio is programmed with a given frequency does not mean it will be assigned that channel.

Consider the map as speculation, and last I knew RR would not post speculative data.

 

[u2brent]

A sheer guess, but they were probably on one of the gazillion LTR systems strewn throughout the state. Maybe an LTR system that wasn't documented, or a documented LTR system that nobody had discovered their particular talkgroup on.
Mike

I was going to say that!! I believe that's the case!
Can't wait for a new narrow gauge page to start..