Mid-Atlantic MilAir 2023

Mark · Mar 22, 2023

Rare 747 around here today. UPS1550 N609UP B-748 just inbound McGuire and "will depart with Camber callsign".
The UPS 748 monsters usually do long Pacific/Europe runs but not seen often around here.Mostly we get the B747-400 types.

N609UP Flight Tracking and History - FlightAware

Track N609UP flight from Sydney to Shanghai Pudong Int'l

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1750 local hearing A/A coms on 252.800 unknown but have as A-10 Tigers A/A from Moody.

jsoergel · Mar 22, 2023

Mark said:
1750 local hearing A/A coms on 252.800 unknown but have as A-10 Tigers A/A from Moody.

Had it here, too - WALDO calling TOPCAT. Probably tankers.

Mark · Mar 22, 2023

jsoergel said:
Had it here, too - WALDO calling TOPCAT. Probably tankers.

Thanks.. yeah Waldo and Topcats were only thing showing in the area..

TerryPavlick · Mar 22, 2023

Mark said:
Rare 747 around here today. UPS1550 N609UP B-748 just inbound McGuire and "will depart with Camber callsign".
The UPS 748 monsters usually do long Pacific/Europe runs but not seen often around here.Mostly we get the B747-400 types.

N609UP Flight Tracking and History - FlightAware

Track N609UP flight from Sydney to Shanghai Pudong Int'l

flightaware.com

1750 local hearing A/A coms on 252.800 unknown but have as A-10 Tigers A/A from Moody.

Philadelphia still gets the B748 since they are an international sort hub....but UPS still operates the MD10 and MD11 so they take some of the long haul stuff too. Once the Airbus and MDs are retired then Boeings will be the only aircraft type around.

Mark · Mar 22, 2023

TerryPavlick said:
Philadelphia still gets the B748 since they are an international sort hub....but UPS still operates the MD10 and MD11 so they take some of the long haul stuff too. Once the Airbus and MDs are retired then Boeings will be the only aircraft type around.

Rgr when I was at Tampa airport a few weeks back there was a purty UPS-MD/DC-10 parked there.
Prob for Carib/South American work.. Sure looked huge next to mostly B-737's

I don't think Philly ever gets B748's..always B306 types and occasional MD-10's.

Dyess B-1's/C-130J's relocating.. Wish they would stop here

Portions of Dyess B-1, C-130 fleet relocate in advance of potential storm

Multiple B-1B Lancers and C-130J Super Hercules are scheduled to depart Dyess Air Force Base in preparation of possible oncoming storms Mar. 22. Base officials are working with partners at Holloman AFB, New Mexico, and other locations across the country to accommodate B-1 and C-130 aircraft...

www.dvidshub.net

FIREBOX2914 · Mar 22, 2023

Mark said:
Rgr when I was at Tampa airport a few weeks back there was a purty UPS-MD/DC-10 parked there.
Prob for Carib/South American work.. Sure looked huge next to mostly B-737's
I don't think Philly ever gets B748's..always B306 types and occasional MD-10's.

Dyess B-1's/C-130J's relocating.. Wish they would stop here

Portions of Dyess B-1, C-130 fleet relocate in advance of potential storm

Multiple B-1B Lancers and C-130J Super Hercules are scheduled to depart Dyess Air Force Base in preparation of possible oncoming storms Mar. 22. Base officials are working with partners at Holloman AFB, New Mexico, and other locations across the country to accommodate B-1 and C-130 aircraft...

www.dvidshub.net

I hate to contradict but I got photo evidence of UPS 748s, and plenty of MD11s at PHL during the DEC Cargo Push! The Few Fedex MD10s left are coming to an end.

Mark · Mar 22, 2023

FIREBOX2914 said:
I hate to contradict but I got photo evidence of UPS 748s, and plenty of MD11s at PHL during the DEC Cargo Push! The Few Fedex MD10s left are coming to an end.

I didn't say anything about MD-11's not being in Philly.As for UPS B748's a one Month cargo push is not regular B748 service.
Lets see those pics. I stand by my statement that UPS B748's are very rare around here thats all.No biggie.

Here are all current B748's flying.. None are near or into Philly. KPHL Intl cargo footprint is tiny compared to other major airports.

BOEING 747-8 (quad-jet) (B748) ✈ Aircraft Type - FlightAware

BOEING 747-8 (quad-jet) (B748) aircraft type complete tracking. Explore live maps, departures, arrivals and more with FlightAware.

flightaware.com

RaleighGuy · Mar 22, 2023

POTUS schedule for Thursday and a look ahead at Friday...

5:00 PM THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY depart Joint Base Andrews en route to Ottawa, Canada
6:25 PM THE PRESIDENT and THE FIRST LADY arrive in Ottawa International Airport, Ottawa, Canada

Friday, March 24, 2023

The President and the First Lady will attend a Gala Dinner hosted by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Mrs. Sophie Grégoire Trudeau of Canada.
The President and the First Lady will travel from Ottawa, Canada to Wilmington, Delaware where they will remain for the weekend.

RaleighGuy · Mar 22, 2023

Must be jump Ops at Ft Bragg, have three C30Js up tonight on my ADSB, but as usual no voice traffic.

TerryPavlick · Mar 22, 2023

Mark said:
I didn't say anything about MD-11's not being in Philly.As for UPS B748's a one Month cargo push is not regular B748 service.
Lets see those pics. I stand by my statement that UPS B748's are very rare around here thats all.No biggie.

Here are all current B748's flying.. None are near or into Philly. KPHL Intl cargo footprint is tiny compared to other major airports.

BOEING 747-8 (quad-jet) (B748) ✈ Aircraft Type - FlightAware

BOEING 747-8 (quad-jet) (B748) aircraft type complete tracking. Explore live maps, departures, arrivals and more with FlightAware.

flightaware.com

They fly one to Germany.....

5X203 (UPS203) United Parcel Service Flight Tracking and History - FlightAware

Track United Parcel Service (5X) #203 flight from Philadelphia Intl to Cologne Bonn

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most of the lift anymore is moving to the newer Boeing 767-300 freighters.....more flexible than the 747 or the MDs and larger than the 757 and Airbus

Mark · Mar 22, 2023

TerryPavlick said:
They fly one to Germany.....

5X203 (UPS203) United Parcel Service Flight Tracking and History - FlightAware

Track United Parcel Service (5X) #203 flight from Philadelphia Intl to Cologne Bonn

flightaware.com

most of the lift anymore is moving to the newer Boeing 767-300 freighters.....more flexible than the 747 or the MDs and larger than the 757 and Airbus

Wow.. didn't know that.. Thanks.. Cologne seems to be very popular UPS B748 hub! My Bad..DOH!
Just I have been following Dover/McGuire for years and have never seen or logged a UPS-748 into either.
I'm sure I have missed a few but still very rare.Must be important cargo.Say on inbound CP will depart as CMB437.

Mark · Mar 22, 2023

RaleighGuy said:
Must be jump Ops at Ft Bragg, have three C30Js up tonight on my ADSB, but as usual no voice traffic.

Low altitude night jumps for sure.. TINCAN C-17 in there now at low alttitude.

TerryPavlick · Mar 22, 2023

Mark said:
Wow.. didn't know that.. Thanks.. Cologne seems to be very popular UPS B748 hub! My Bad..DOH!

yeah Germany is the main international hub while Louisville is the main domestic hub - this is from wikipedia but it helps reference the Philadelphia hub

jplyler · Mar 22, 2023

Mark said:
Low altitude night jumps for sure.. TINCAN C-17 in there now at low alttitude.

I’ve noticed extra activity at times in the last week with Jill and TinCan flights. I’m about to upgrade my antenna systems but I’m not sure there’s much I can to to pick up low level flights that far away, I’m just north of Charlotte. I’m considering installing a remote SDR rx station at my mom’s in union county which might provide more opportunity.

Any idea on a few go-to freqs in use for the Ft Bragg Ops as a starting point? I have what’s in the RR database but have never been able to verify anything from my QTH.

Thanks,

Jon
AK4XO

RaleighGuy · Mar 22, 2023

jplyler said:
I’ve noticed extra activity at times in the last week with Jill and TinCan flights. I’m about to upgrade my antenna systems but I’m not sure there’s much I can to to pick up low level flights that far away, I’m just north of Charlotte. I’m considering installing a remote SDR rx station at my mom’s in union county which might provide more opportunity.

Any idea on a few go-to freqs in use for the Ft Bragg Ops as a starting point? I have what’s in the RR database but have never been able to verify anything from my QTH.

Thanks,

Jon
AK4XO

Have never been able to pick them up, but my antennas are the worst. Others have reported they operate in the low MHz range. Check out this thread for past posts.

NC MilCom NOTAM listed freqs

Due to what is likely the permanent loss of Milradiocomms.com, and the lack of movement on this site to implement something similar, see: (2) Mil Air submissions, like milaircomms.com | RadioReference.com Forums If no one objects, I think it could be helpful to list NC related NOTAMs that...

forums.radioreference.com

Mark · Mar 22, 2023

Trying again to launch that3D printed Methane/Ox rocket again tonight at the Cape.
Betting folks say it won't launch.. Close up views it looks like hunk of junk but will see
Someone said this rocket has more holds than Hulk Hogan

Next target launch time 11:05PM after another boat gets out of the way.

Mark · Mar 22, 2023

Mark said:
Trying again to launch that3D printed Methane/Ox rocket again tonight at the Cape.
Betting folks say it won't launch.. Close up views it looks like hunk of junk but will see
Someone said this rocket has more holds than Hulk Hogan
Next target launch time 11:05PM after another boat gets out of the way.

Finally launched at 11:25 local and looked good like a Oxy/Acetylene torch departing but second stage did not ignite correctly so splashing down into Atlantic off Florida...

2345 local Back to real coms.. RAIDER-34 KC-130J #169536 VMGR-352 inbound KDOV with CP 349.400
Yesterday was RAIDER-62 #169924 into Dover.. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/RAIDR62/history/20230322/0113Z/KNKX/KDOV

VMGR-352 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

mdhallan · Mar 23, 2023

Mark said:
Finally launched at 11:25 local and looked good like a Oxy/Acetylene torch departing but second stage did not ignite correctly so splashing down into Atlantic off Florida...

2345 local Back to real coms.. RAIDER-34 KC-130J #169536 VMGR-352 inbound KDOV with CP 349.400
Yesterday was RAIDER-62 #169924 into Dover.. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/RAIDR62/history/20230322/0113Z/KNKX/KDOV

VMGR-352 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What are the kc130s going to Dover for?

mdmonitor · Mar 23, 2023

VIP Movement Summary (does not include POTUS, VPOTUS, FLOTUS travel)

DATE: 22 Mar

SAM 497 (C-37 # 99-0404) ADW-San Juan PR
SAM 480 (C-37 # 06-0500) Colorado Springs-ADW

mdmonitor · Mar 23, 2023

0900- DC ANG F-16s (Angry 21) off ADW (348.725), working ZDC Baltimore (360.7). A2A is 319.175. Heading to W107? Also working Huntress (235.9)

0923- Hearing short, clipped xmissions on 314.45. Have Quick?

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