Mid-Atlantic MilAir 2024

[mdmonitor]

0830- DC ANG F-16s (Brave) are up and about. Hearing comms on 348.725/340.25. Chat mentions PAX areas R-4006/4008. Also working Huntress (139.7) asking about Civil Air Patrol acft. Sounds like weekly Falcon Virgo exercise. Working ZDC Lexington (281.4) & Bay Watch (305.2)

 

[Tech792]

1130L- GLARE 99 (93-00699) doing patterns east of Lakehurst

 

[krokus]

I guess everyone uses different color codes. Red to me meant classified information that wasn't encrypted, black was after it was encrypted. the different colors systems were kept separate to keep red info from accidentally being recoverable on black parts of the systems. (ie different rooms with minimal interconnections between them.

Even this definition is different than what I understood as red/black

Red/green was for voice, as the green lit button on the handsets took you into secure mode. Red was lit when no crypto was connected, or was not in encryption mode.

Red/black was for data, showing which side of the crypto you were on.

Edit: This was from my time as a USN technician, when I worked in comms. I presume they have not changed.

 

[mdmonitor]

Guys

Does anyone have a handy list of the A2A freqs for the units such as Rhodys, Kings, Otis, Ranger, etc. I have some in my scanner, but not sure if they are the current/correct ones

Thanks.

 

[mdmonitor]

1235- Couple of MD ANG guys working Harrisburg A/D (273.525). A2A is 266.6. Another pair is working on 293.3.

1240- Roman 31 (F-18 E/F VFA-106, NAS OCEANA VA) at FL200 working ZDC Bucks Elbow (284.7).

 

[mdmonitor]

Found this in my notes while cleaning some old files. Thought some of you might be interested.

 

[Satcho]

Looks like a bunch of MilAir flights off the MD, VA, NC coasts at the moment. Anyone hearing radio traffic?

 

[mdmonitor]

1400- Intro 28 (E-6B # 163918) off PAX heading offshore at FL230.

Had Westover C-5M & DOV C-5M doing patterns at ACY this morning-early afternoon. Giving the ACY Boardwalk folks something to see.

 

[MUTNAV]

Red/green was for voice, as the green lit button on the handsets took you into secure mode. Red was lit when no crypto was connected, or was not in encryption mode.

Red/black was for data, showing which side of the crypto you were on.

Edit: This was from my time as a USN technician, when I worked in comms. I presume they have not changed.

So like a transmit light on a handi-talkie, if you pushed it and it was green it was encrypted and red meant not encrypted, or something like that (I just remember different colors meant something different (maybe charging vs charging completed, though that isn't relevant to the aircraft in question).

Thanks for the clarification in this case.
Thanks
Joel

 

[mdmonitor]

1425- Pioneer 10 (P-8 # 169562 VX-1) has been operating in the Atlantic Test Track for most of the day. Did some patterns at DOV before RTB PAX.

 

[krokus]

So like a transmit light on a handi-talkie, if you pushed it and it was green it was encrypted and red meant not encrypted, or something like that (I just remember different colors meant something different (maybe charging vs charging completed, though that isn't relevant to the aircraft in question).

Thanks for the clarification in this case.
Thanks
Joel

This type of handset would be connected to a switching system, SA-2112, via a selector box, which allowed the user to choose which voice circuit they were connected to.

https://www.navy-radio.com/xmtrs/handsets/ta840-1911-01.jpg

 

[Mark]

Several Travis KC-10's lumbering East from Travis spread out at FL350-370 so assume staging.
Look almost on course for the Mid Atlantic but early yet.
ROMA-71 #84-0191
ROMA-61 #86-0031
ROMA-81 #86-0027 way behind over Utah.
Maybe last large Euro hurrah Altrav for the KC-10's

MAINE91 calling Polo Ops on 379.450 inbound Stewart with 20 of your pax to offload
Req follow me truck.. Looks like inbound from Keesler Air base.

 

[Waltz41]

ROMA 71 heading into McGuire, ROMA 61 right behind it.
Think they are dragging the Aviano F-16's, which apparently are going to Andrews.

 

[MUTNAV]

This type of handset would be connected to a switching system, SA-2112, via a selector box, which allowed the user to choose which voice circuit they were connected to.

https://www.navy-radio.com/xmtrs/handsets/ta840-1911-01.jpg

Great... I was about to complain about non-standard color codes for this kind of thing.
But.... I just thought about wiring color codes (on a vehicles DC circuit wired red and black, which one is chassis-ground, and now think about household wiring with white and black, which one is neutral-ground?) of course, if were hooking up a trailer to a car, the white wire is chassis ground, and I guess eventually hooks up to the black wire from the chassis of the vehicle?. This is just the U.S. Ugh...

Thanks
Joel

Wiring Color Codes - NEC Electrical Standards & 3-Phase

Wire ID is essential for safety and efficiency, and adhering to wire color codes is an integral aspect. Learn about NEC wire color code standards, 3-Phase color codes.

www.bradyid.com

https://techdiagrammer.com/automotive-wiring-color-code-chart

https://autoctrls.com/car-wiring-color-codes/

Thanks
Joel

 

[610hawk]

ROMA 71 heading into McGuire, ROMA 61 right behind it.
Think they are dragging the Aviano F-16's, which apparently are going to Andrews.

1646L ROMA 61 KC-10 86-0031 descending through rain clouds into McGuire. Unfortunately did not have time to get my camera out, this is an iPhone shot.

 

[john8436]

When I was in the Air Force many moons ago I was a crypto tech, maintaining all of the equipment from KW-26's to KG 84s both voice and data.

Red was unencrypted and Black was encrypted.

 

[Mark]

ROMA 71 heading into McGuire, ROMA 61 right behind it.
Think they are dragging the Aviano F-16's, which apparently are going to Andrews.

Heard ROMA-81 into McGuire alpha 1 ,no pax or cargo and req u drives.
Guess they are setting up for maybe weekend Altrav.. They were all flying East at FL-35k+ so doubt they were
dragging anybody course Aviano birds may already be here. See who shows up later this weekend.

2105 Had brief coms on 384.850.. new one for me...

 

[freqhopping]

AN-124 inbound to Dover. ADS-B Exchange - track aircraft live

 

[Mark]

AN-124 inbound to Dover. ADS-B Exchange - track aircraft live

I was just getting ready to post that

ADB384F Antonov Design Bureau Flight Tracking and History - FlightAware

Track Antonov Design Bureau #384F flight from Leipzig/Halle to Malpensa Int'l

www.flightaware.com

Boeing freighter job out of Snohomish?
Inbound KDOV 132.425.. Very good English with slight accent.. Contract pilot?
2121 local looking for runway 19 into Dover

 

[freqhopping]

Likely a good photo opportunity tomorrow for you guys in DE.