Mn dnr tac (vhf)

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For those of you that have completely abandoned VHF, just be advised that MN DNR TAC (VHF) is very active right now. They are now using a PL with it, too!
 

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151.340 was very active for the grass fire in Brooklyn Park.

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This fire season I have only heard DNR on VHF .
151.3250 pl 146.2 main dispatch
151.3400 pl 110.9 air to ground
151.0250 pl 136.5 MIFC to Mero air units on Buffalo repeater.
154.2950 no pl patched into ARMER
 

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I've been hearing DNR on ARMER. They have been on Anoka's Fire Main and Tacs quite a bit, also heard them on Sherburne Fire main today. They were also on STAC 1 for the Brooklyn Park fire today.

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Another thing I found interesting today is that one of the helicopters working the Brooklyn Park fire today was actually Trooper 9, not a DNR helicopter.

Here is some good video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urtexm3h920&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I had posted on TCIP that it was Trooper 8 doing the water drops, but after seeing that video I see it was actually Trooper 9. (N119SP) There was a second MSP helicopter flying above the scene that was not dropping water, not sure if that was Trooper 7 or 8.

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I am guessing you are hearing them off the Anoka towers? TGs 440 & 442?
My main system is Hennepin East, but I can get marginal on Anoka, I just checked my Unitrunker log for Hennepin East and it appears the DNR units have not been on Hennepin East since mid Feb.
 

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Talked to a couple of guys in DNR 735 out of Zimmerman, and went over their truck briefly. it looks like they have a vhf radio in there, and they definitely use the Cambridge dispatch freq--151.325. However, one of the guys showed me their digital handheld radios, and said that they use those to talk to the county. so they have their vhf mobile radios, their vhf portable radios, and their 800Mhz portable radios.
I don't know how many county tacs they have, and it seems they always patch a state tac into a county tac.
 

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DNR has plenty of ARMER talkgroups, in fact more than we even know about, but since they have such a high turnover, they are part time employees and they are creatures of convenience and habit, they generally use their VHF resources since that is what they need for their Air to Air and Air to Ground operations since the helicopters that they generally use are leased and they dont have ARMER aircraft mobiles. They can use their ARMER portables in the helicopter, but for the sake of their own operations, they use VHF. DNR coveres many areas and some of them especially, north of the metro along I-94, still have yet to migrate to ARMER. The other consideration is that federal smoke chasers from the Sherburne Nat'l Wildlife refuge use Fed VHF and have no ARMER capabilities, but do have shared resources with DNR.

This does cause a bit of disconnect at the fireground since nearly all non-planned wildland fires have a structural fire department that initially manages the scene, and often is the only resource needed at the scene, but when DNR arrives, their interoperability is generally only achieved by a face to face interaction between a DNR IC and the local IC. There are a bunch of safety considerations to take into account on both sides of the line and with limited budgets, I suspect that VHF and ARMER differences will always continue to exist. I do think that as Chisago county continues to build up and migrate and also as the I-94 corridor migrates, things may change.
 
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