MOAs and ARTCC Center "Official" Frequency Listings?

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Years ago I used Flight Guide by Airguide Publications. It is a good source for
ARTCC frequencies. Also the JeppGuides are good too. As for MOAs, I think the FAA
Sectional Charts cover the governing center frequencies for a MOA, but I don't know of
any definitive source for operations inside of an MOA, that is usually up to the units using it.
Although 301.600 and 259.400 seem to be common among MOAs.

http://www.sportys-catalogs.com/
http://www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilotStore/secp/51

Hopefully we have some pilot members that can give a better answer than I can.

Mark
 
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The FAA now offers on line ordering for just about every chart, directory and publication they have to offer. Here's the link:

http://naco.faa.gov/

The Airport/Facility Directory for the respective parts of the country have latest frequency updates for the ARTCCs/Terminals and FSS.

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Updated copies of the FAA ATA-100 Data CD are posted on several places on the web.
including
http://aviationtoolbox.org/raw_data/FAA/ATA-100/
http://data.pilotage.com/software/cd_faa/

The FAA ATA-100 files are described here - http://www.faa.gov/ats/ata/ata100/120/stdatafiles.html

One of the Files is titled - "AIR ROUTE TRAFFIC CONTROL CENTER (ARTCC) FACILITIES AND FREQUENCIES
All ARTCC's and their related facilities (Airport Route Surveillance Radar (ARSR), Remote Communications Air/Ground (RCAG), Center Radar Approach Control (CERAP), Secondary Radar (SECRA), and frequencies used by those facilities"

This would seem to be the "official" FAA list of freqs. The FAA website at the link above also has information on subcribing to the information.

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Chuck, Outstanding, this was exactly what I was looking for.

Thanks!

n3bxv said:
Updated copies of the FAA ATA-100 Data CD are posted on several places on the web.
including
http://aviationtoolbox.org/raw_data/FAA/ATA-100/
http://data.pilotage.com/software/cd_faa/

The FAA ATA-100 files are described here - http://www.faa.gov/ats/ata/ata100/120/stdatafiles.html

One of the Files is titled - "AIR ROUTE TRAFFIC CONTROL CENTER (ARTCC) FACILITIES AND FREQUENCIES
All ARTCC's and their related facilities (Airport Route Surveillance Radar (ARSR), Remote Communications Air/Ground (RCAG), Center Radar Approach Control (CERAP), Secondary Radar (SECRA), and frequencies used by those facilities"

This would seem to be the "official" FAA list of freqs. The FAA website at the link above also has information on subcribing to the information.

Chuck
 

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n3bxv said:
Updated copies of the FAA ATA-100 Data CD are posted on several places on the web.
including
http://aviationtoolbox.org/raw_data/FAA/ATA-100/
http://data.pilotage.com/software/cd_faa/

The FAA ATA-100 files are described here - http://www.faa.gov/ats/ata/ata100/120/stdatafiles.html

One of the Files is titled - "AIR ROUTE TRAFFIC CONTROL CENTER (ARTCC) FACILITIES AND FREQUENCIES
All ARTCC's and their related facilities (Airport Route Surveillance Radar (ARSR), Remote Communications Air/Ground (RCAG), Center Radar Approach Control (CERAP), Secondary Radar (SECRA), and frequencies used by those facilities"

This would seem to be the "official" FAA list of freqs. The FAA website at the link above also has information on subcribing to the information.

Chuck

Hello,

A large amount of interesting data. I suspect websites like Airnav may use this to update parts of their database. I am looking for sector boundaries and associated frequencies but I do not see that data in the set. It also does not seem to directly list the tracon information as well. I looked over the frequencies for the Boston ARTCC and compared it to other FAA publications and my notes. I have some doubts to how up to date the information is. It had typical database errors like saying Caribou is in Massachusetts but the coordinates are in Maine. There is a Caribou in Maine. Likewise for the Melrose site it says is in Maine but is really in Massachusetts.

I am searching the local VHF band and can pick up aircraft from Quebec to Long Island if they are high enough. I got several Air Canada Flights from Halifax to Toronto as they called Montreal Center in the Granby Area. I noticed several frequency differences. For example, I am hearing the controller only for the Bosox sector Low (Melrose, MA) on 135.550. The aircraft talk on 133.42 which the CD lists as being in Woodstock, NY on Long Island. The sector information I have from June 2004 says 133.42 is the frequency for Bosox. Several other frequencies around New York City are different as well.

73 Eric
 

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EricCottrell said:
I am looking for sector boundaries and associated frequencies but I do not see that data in the set.

Unless you can get your hands on a controller map or an SOP...you probably won't find a sector boundry map, most likely, only someone from inside.

EricCottrell said:
It also does not seem to directly list the tracon information as well. I looked over the frequencies for the Boston ARTCC and compared it to other FAA publications and my notes. I have some doubts to how up to date the information is. It had typical database errors like saying Caribou is in Massachusetts but the coordinates are in Maine. There is a Caribou in Maine. Likewise for the Melrose site it says is in Maine but is really in Massachusetts.

Caribou may be a sector name or a fix, a radar site name or a VOR/VORTAC etc...and/or it could be a name used after a city but not always....

EricCottrell said:
I am searching the local VHF band and can pick up aircraft from Quebec to Long Island if they are high enough. I got several Air Canada Flights from Halifax to Toronto as they called Montreal Center in the Granby Area. I noticed several frequency differences. For example, I am hearing the controller only for the Bosox sector Low (Melrose, MA) on 135.550. The aircraft talk on 133.42 which the CD lists as being in Woodstock, NY on Long Island. The sector information I have from June 2004 says 133.42 is the frequency for Bosox. Several other frequencies around New York City are different as well.
73 Eric

Remote Center Air to Ground Communication Facilities (RCAG's) are located all over, but individual frequencies are only broadcasted from individual sites-not simulcasted (from what I've seen in the air traffic world) usually at airports (NAVAIDS) but also maybe located at Radar sites. My understanding from the techs where I work is that they only broadcast about 10 Wattssometimes as much as 50 Watts depending on terrain. With aircraft at the higher flight levels (ie. 25,000' and above) it is possible to hear aircraft from several hundred miles away depending on line of sight...

I'm definately not an expert on this but this is what I've learned in my experience.

-J
 
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EricCottrell said:
Hello,

A large amount of interesting data. I suspect websites like Airnav may use this to update parts of their database. I am looking for sector boundaries and associated frequencies but I do not see that data in the set. It also does not seem to directly list the tracon information as well. I looked over the frequencies for the Boston ARTCC and compared it to other FAA publications and my notes. I have some doubts to how up to date the information is.

Eric,
A web search on "FAA ATA-100" shows that quite a few websites are using the data, so I would suspect Airnav is one of them. I too have found quite a few errors within the data, but it is the "official data"! Depending on which website you got the data, the latest files are dated in December, but being a Government employee myself, I understand all too well the difficulting in keeping official documents updated to reflect actual operations within our Government Bureaucracy.

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JLHDU said:
Caribou may be a sector name or a fix, a radar site name or a VOR/VORTAC etc...and/or it could be a name used after a city but not always....
-J
Hello,

It is a RCAG and the rest of the names correspond to towns and cities.


This CD looks very similar to the DAFIFT that the NGS puts out for the miltary and that will be going away soon. The DAFIFT uses a different format.

73 Eric
 
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