mobile scanning in NY

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dispatcher812

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I know there is a sticky thread about mobile scanning in NY but has that gone away by chance? I tried clicking the link in the thread and even searched by title, article and section and did not find anything related to have a scanner in a vehicle. 2 years ago I made a trip too Upstate New York with a scanner and an Antenna on my car and had several troopers pass me with no issue.
 

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From my understanding, a scanner is illegal for HAMs to have too. It must be able to transmit.
 

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This topic in NY comes up every so often. Don't be stupid. Don't commit a crime possessing a scanner. "Most" law enforcement folks do not care. BUT, this is not a place to get legal advice and there is always that one guy that will jam you up.
 

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Carry a trans capable of monitoring ham and out of band if you get stopped hit the call button on 52 lock it

They have no clue what it is

Trust me they are not from my day hired with standards
 

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This has been argued for 50 years. I have NEVER heard of anyone, including criminals caught committing a crime, with a scanner in hand, being fined, prosecuted or anything else for having the scanner. I have on the other hand seen/read the use of a scanner by a criminal used as secondary evidence in court for prosecuting a committed crime. In other words, “joe blow was seen in the area at time of crime, did in fact have a police scanner in hand, and was found with a stolen xxx the next day…..”.

And since the law is sooooo vague and outdated on the subject, there is no way in hell anything would ever be held up in court. As mentioned, a simple click on a scanner app on your iphone showing your scanning right then and there would squash any legality a prosecutor may have. DONE.

Just my un-edumacated guess, not meant for legal advise! 😂😂
 

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My friend charged it ONE time, as well as possession of radio devices (PL 140.40). A "group" was using a cell phone app in an attempt to monitor local law enforcement while they attempted to commit a burglary, which they were ironically caught in the act of due to some good intelligence. During a search of their vehicle, a cell phone was found in a cupholder of an involved vehicle, which was broadcasting a neighboring law enforcement agency (criminals aren't smart and didn't monitor the right PD, who was displayed on the app, but no longer was actually on the feed the app was providing). The VTL misdemeanor for the scanner was essentially dropped as part of the legal proceedings (lots of fluff charges get consolidated or dropped, leaving behind the meat and potatoes charges). Regardless, they were convicted of attempted burglary and possession of radio devices, which was a cell phone with the police scanner app playing. Some laws in NYS are very vague or outdated, especially VTL, and if an officer can properly articulate a scanner app on a phone, contained within a motor vehicle, it could absolutely stick. Last I checked, a cell phone is a radio, and using an app, could make it "capable of receiving signals on the frequencies allocated for police use" (VTL 397), while not directly those frequencies, but monitoring them through an intermediary service. Regardless, there is probably a better charge (PL 140.40), when you're actually committing one of the defined crimes, but, like it's been covered before, don't do illegal things while you're doing illegal things, and you'd most likely not have to worry about it. I'm willing to bet, most cops have no idea about that section of the VTL; but, you might find that one that might know just enough about radios, scanners, or the VTL who could rain on your parade.

***NOT LEGAL ADVICE***
 

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As long as you are not committing a crime with it or interfering with them doing their job they won't bother you, besides there are so many new cops in NYS that they don't even know about the law. I think any NYS cop that knows about the law is long retired.
 

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As long as you are not committing a crime with it or interfering with them doing their job they won't bother you, besides there are so many new cops in NYS that they don't even know about the law. I think any NYS cop that knows about the law is long retired.
Not in my area. In WNY a ton of police departments enforce it which is ridiculous
 

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Location, location, location. As others have pointed out, and as I researched extensively back in 2005, the law is not universally enforced or understood by police or judges.
 

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I guess I'm a hardened criminal because I went to City Island with an IC-R30 last week.
i`m with you on this one, i drive a ford escape that my wife calls a pin cushion. i have two antennas one for each of my two frequency counters, i also have two antennas one for my gmrs radio and one wouxun 9d+ radio to monitor nypd when i go from maryland to nyc to visit family. if killers are walking the streets and they want to bother me for something i`ve been doing for over 50 years have fun. being retired i have nothing better to do with my time.
 
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