I do not want any BS about this, it was decided on this board that there would be a database, well there isn't. so
http://MCQCTONES.20m.com
http://MCQCTONES.20m.com
Mon County QCII tones database
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jmr, regardless of the argument about posting this information.if you are permitted to post the quick call tones why don't you go first !.if it has been established that this information can be posted show good faith and start it off..................just my 2 cent's for whatever it's worth.
jmr, regardless of the argument about posting this information.if you are permitted to post the quick call tones why don't you go first !.if it has been established that this information can be posted show good faith and start it off..................just my 2 cent's for whatever it's worth.
very easy. I do not have any to post.
elk2370bruce
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After all the knashing of teeth and cries of outrageous indignation about this, the end result (thus far) has been under-whelming. Is there that little interest? Is there no one who has the data? Is there no one willing to be the first to plunge into the cold waters of potential New Jersey-style litigious confrontation? Quien sabe?
legitimate reason would be for the new bearcat scanners with tone decoders. Now I can just put the tones in and don't have to listen to chit chat on the channel just the tone out.
elk2370bruce
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Just because manufacturers put a feature in the radio, there is no compulsion of the licensee to provide information beyond what is available on the FCC database - just a way to make more money off of us. My public safety leadership provided me with the information I needed as a first responder and I was required not to share the information. I readily complied. There are, based on personal and professional contacts, a significant number of agencies who do NOT want their information posted in public forum and would be royally pissed if it appeared without their consent. I will not change my mind on this issue and will not attempt to change anyone elses beliefs. There have been some concerns raised regarding the frivilous and illegal activation of page out tones and liability and culpability for the poster of that information in a court of law should an injury or death occur on a false response call. I do hope that the data finally being posted has involved the direct contact and consent of the departments posted. If not, precedent court case rulings are sure to follow. For every issue, there are four lawyers. For every lawyer involved, there are nine conflicting opinions. This issue will, I am sure, be decided by Superior Court action and a cascade effect of subsequent pending cases could be painful and costly to the hobby and the individual who provided the information. No wonder the posters to the referenced site are all remaining anonymous and will leave poor JMR to swing in the breeze at the first sign of trouble - along with his parents. Many of us protect our homes, our savings, and our pension by choosing to distance ourselves from this controversial issue as well as on personal principle. Should this personal website and its potential use go sour, let us hope that his supporters will actively come forward to his aid and defense.
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DJ88
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When and if the first tid bit of information does appear anywhere, I would be most interested to see the reaction of the agency involved. I think we all remember the letter Lindsay received from the United States Government regarding the posting of certain armed forces frequencies and it makes me wonder if any of the local agencies would react in the same manner in this instance. It could become very interesting.
i dont see the big friggin deal. Why would Uniden bother offering the tone out feature if it is so wrong to be openly receiving the tone out information?
I personally, just want to be able to keep a radio silent until a call somes in.
I personally, just want to be able to keep a radio silent until a call somes in.
elk2370bruce
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Having no personal interest or use for the data, I could really care less either way. I merely pass along the somewhat strongly stated concerns expressed to me by fire and ems leaders and two municipal prosecutors for edification of our hobby members.
jaymatt1978
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I have gone back and forth about putting them on http://www.bergennnscanner.com. A friend of mine said don't post them and nobody has asked me if I have them so they stay off for now. Just for the record I don't have a 396T and don't plan to get one, even if the NJSP goes digital soon. Although I am curious -if anyone in Bergen County does have one!Those who feel they shouldn't be floating around cyberspace, just remember the same thing happened with PL tones. There hasn't been such a dramatic rise in radio jamming since PL's staarted being listed on the Internet. Although I admit Quick Call data could do more damage than simple PL tones.
Now my feeling is that posting PL tones and Repeater input freqs is worse that QCII tones. Lets face it, any idiot can record the pager tones with a tape recorder and replay them over the air if he wanted to. Most of us remember what happened a couple years ago when some idiot was doing just that. Having a PL tone and repeater input freq pretty much gives anyone the keys to the repeater. This is probably why these 1 frequency LTR systems have become so popular, it keeps people off the repeaters.
Bottom line is that if someone wants to cause trouble, he's going to figiure out how to do it with or without any information he can get from our scanner sites.
Bottom line is that if someone wants to cause trouble, he's going to figiure out how to do it with or without any information he can get from our scanner sites.
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couldn't have said that better myself
This whole thread is ridiculous
This whole thread is ridiculous
I SAID I DO NOT WANT ANY BS ABOUT THIS. Please lock this thread. I really don't care who agrees or who doesn't. It is not going to change anything. If somebody transmits on that freq it's the same danger as tapping out qc tones. If you do not like it, don't participate.
SCANdal
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Totally stumped...
What's not legit about that? The emergency medical services in my hometown (like many unfortunetely, because even after all these years, EMS is still treated like the bastard step child of public safety) share their primary dispatch / operations frequency with the local public works. If equipped with a capable Bearcat scanner, I don't see what's wrong with being able to screen that frequency to open up only when the EMS duty crew or back-up crews are paged out (like their own radios do), and not have to listen all day to mundane radio traffic like the town street sweeper notifying the water superintendent that they are re-filling their tank at the hydrant on the corner of so-and-so avenue and this-and-that place.
I feel worse for monitors who live in Teaneck and don't have such a scanner. Teaneck VAC gets paged on the police channel. I can't imagine listening to dull police traffic like plate checks and warrant checks all day if all I'm interested in is hearing where the ambulance is going.
SCANdal
K2NNJ,K2NNJ said:
What's not legit about that? The emergency medical services in my hometown (like many unfortunetely, because even after all these years, EMS is still treated like the bastard step child of public safety) share their primary dispatch / operations frequency with the local public works. If equipped with a capable Bearcat scanner, I don't see what's wrong with being able to screen that frequency to open up only when the EMS duty crew or back-up crews are paged out (like their own radios do), and not have to listen all day to mundane radio traffic like the town street sweeper notifying the water superintendent that they are re-filling their tank at the hydrant on the corner of so-and-so avenue and this-and-that place.
I feel worse for monitors who live in Teaneck and don't have such a scanner. Teaneck VAC gets paged on the police channel. I can't imagine listening to dull police traffic like plate checks and warrant checks all day if all I'm interested in is hearing where the ambulance is going.
SCANdal
I hope you guys are kidding here. What difference does it make anyway as one poster said he is worrying about the " Whack Job " coming to his fire well if that whack job hears it on the radio he is coming what ever tone, PL or frequency he hears it on. So unless you encrypted it makes no difference in the world what is posted.
Tony Mondaro
Chief
North Arlington EMS
Bergen County NJ
Tony Mondaro
Chief
North Arlington EMS
Bergen County NJ
If you read my message thoroughly, I basically said that I did not want some Whack Job setting off my pager for kicks. I could care less if people come to a fire. We have enough of a crowd from the people eho live on the street, what's a few more.
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