Monroe County Fire P25 Linked TGs

[k2hz]

There has been a lot of discussion and confusion in the past about TG 1076 which was linked to VHF Channel 5 154.310 which remains active for County Fire Dispatch tone outs. It had been patched to TG 1811, County Ops 5, which is now primary Monroe County Fire Dispatch.

It appears the VHF link and patch has been inactive for a while. Dispatch on 154.310 is now simul with TG 1811 and TG 1076 is silent today.

TG 1705 was a link to former VHF Channel 4 154.175 which has been deprecated for some time so no activity on the TG I am aware of for many months.

TG 1704 is a link to 154.385 which had been VHF Channel 3, now deprecated. The frequency 154.385 was transferred to RFD for use as MDC1200 Station Alert signaling as a backup to the BRYX system. I don't know why the link to TG 1704 is still active with the MDC alerts since this is now non-voice, data only.

It appears that TGs 1705 and 1706 are now deprecated and TG 1704 is questionable since rebroadcasting the VHF MDC alert signals seems to serve no purpose.

There are also the mysterious TGs 1403-1407 that have apparently never been used for years. They are supposed to be "backups" for TGs 1073-1077

I would like to get some knowledgeable input about what is going on before I deprecate these TGs.

I am also still looking for reliable input on what is the official use of the new EMS TGs 1898 and 1899 plus former Union Hill TG 1896

 

[Homer_LCPDFR]

TG 1705 was a link to former VHF Channel 4 154.175 which has been deprecated for some time so no activity on the TG I am aware of for many months.

TG 1704 is a link to 154.385 which had been VHF Channel 3, now deprecated. The frequency 154.385 was transferred to RFD for use as MDC1200 Station Alert signaling as a backup to the BRYX system. I don't know why the link to TG 1704 is still active with the MDC alerts since this is now non-voice, data only.

It appears that TGs 1705 and 1706 are now deprecated and TG 1704 is questionable since rebroadcasting the VHF MDC alert signals seems to serve no purpose.

For 1705 and 1706 are you by any chance referring to 1075 and 1076? 1706 was used three days ago, and 1705 was used a little under a month ago (although its use has always been infrequent)--I would say those are still active.

 

[k2hz]

I wish I could still edit my post! You are correct - I transposed the digits when typing. The 17xx references are wrong.

It should be 1074, 1075 and 1076.

 

[k2hz]

Correction to the part of my original post where I transposed digits in the TG#s:

TG 1075 was a link to former VHF Channel 4 154.175 which has been deprecated for some time so no activity on the TG I am aware of for many months.

TG 1074 is a link to 154.385 which had been VHF Channel 3, now deprecated. The frequency 154.385 was transferred to RFD for use as MDC1200 Station Alert signaling as a backup to the BRYX system. I don't know why the link to TG 1074 is still active with the MDC alerts since this is now non-voice, data only.

It appears that TGs 1075 and 1076 are now deprecated and TG 1074 is questionable since rebroadcasting the VHF MDC alert signals seems to serve no purpose.

 

[mc48]

I had those TG's avoided so I will delete them and see if they show up in my search, as far as the EMS TG's no recent activity.
There are several new TG's on the Law side and they are encrypted, My guesses are 2502 Probation, 2129 Granite, 2359 US Marshalls.
Most if not all PD Tac TG's are fully Encrypted as of late.

 

[k2hz]

I had those TG's avoided so I will delete them and see if they show up in my search, as far as the EMS TG's no recent activity.
There are several new TG's on the Law side and they are encrypted, My guesses are 2502 Probation, 2129 Granite, 2359 US Marshalls.
Most if not all PD Tac TG's are fully Encrypted as of late.

Your guesses look reasonable. I am also seeing a lot of ongoing activity on 2369 along with the recent 2359 activity. Different RIDs between 2369 and 2359. It looks like the 2359 RIDs show up on various local Law TGs so Marshalls are a good possibility,

 

[mc48]

1074 has been MDC data going out just before a call is dispatched on Ops-1 and it's UID is from a city fire dispatch console, like you said no voice traffic. I'm going to leave that TG in my program so I can avoid it and not have it show up in ID search mode. You may want to leave it in the database and label it as data only.

 

[k2hz]

1074 has been MDC data going out just before a call is dispatched on Ops-1 and it's UID is from a city fire dispatch console, like you said no voice traffic. I'm going to leave that TG in my program so I can avoid it and not have it show up in ID search mode. You may want to leave it in the database and label it as data only.

Yes I will probably label it as data but I wonder why TG 1074 is still active linked to 154.385 when that frequency is no longer Fire Ops. The 154.385 MDC is to the RFD house receivers that formerly got the MDC alert signal on 154.130 ahead of the dispatch. I am told it was set up so they still get the alert if BRYX is down. The RDB listing for 154.385 was changed to data early this year after RFD went to BRYX dispatch.

 

[mc48]

2417 just had an automated dispatch go out at the same time it was dispatched on TG1704 Ops-1.

 

[k2hz]

I moved TG 1074 from County Fire to Rochester RFD and tagged it Data so users are warned "nothing to hear here!"
I am watching 1075 and 1076 to see if they should be deprecated since no longer used for the stated purpose.

 

[k2hz]

Fire is doing something odd right now - TGs 1806, 1807, 1808, 1809 & 1811 are all patched together on Patch ID 50512.

 

[mc48]

No MDC data or Automated dispatch today. Sheriff's dispatcher could not receive anything yesterday afternoon but could transmit and tell Deputys to call by phone if they had an assignment.

 

[k2hz]

No MDC data or Automated dispatch today. Sheriff's dispatcher could not receive anything yesterday afternoon but could transmit and tell Deputys to call by phone if they had an assignment.

I have never seen an Ontario patch on Monroe E before but now it shows Phelps Ambulance TG 8088 patched to Phelps Ambulance 2 TG 8089 on Patch ID 64568. I am still seeing 1074 MDC and 2417 voice alarms on Monroe E today.

 

[mc48]

Nothing on the West site no 1074, 2417 or any patched TG's. I thought maybe I changed something so I switched sites and instantly picked up
2417 and the Sheriffs Admin patch.

 

[mc48]

I have seen a couple transmissions on TG 1769, both times it was an AMR ambulance. This would fit into the scheme of things, no idea of what it is used for.

 

[k2hz]

I have seen a couple transmissions on TG 1769, both times it was an AMR ambulance. This would fit into the scheme of things, no idea of what it is used for.

Looking at the pattern of their TGs I would suspect it could be "BCA Detail 2". They seem to have a pair of TGs for each activity so I also suspect the missing TG 1764 is "AMR Ops 2". Other possibility for 1769 is they have another major venue with a regular detail like BCA with a dedicated TG.
If you hear enough to see what fits, please submit it

 

[Homer_LCPDFR]

That theory makes sense. So, naturally, that isn't the case.

Checked some recordings, everything on 1769 today has to do with where they park the ambulances when they get back to headquarters. It's a whole channel dedicated to,
"Where do you want us?"
"Pull in the small door."

It can be confirmed as AMR Vehicle Service Technicians--units consistently call "VST" looking for where to park, a quick google for the term shows job listings with AMR for vehicle service technicians.

 

[k2hz]

It can be confirmed as AMR Vehicle Service Technicians--units consistently call "VST" looking for where to park, a quick google for the term shows job listings with AMR for vehicle service technicians.

I listened to the recordings and agree so I added TG 1769 to RRDB

 

[Homer_LCPDFR]

On the topic of TGs for defunct departments being repurposed (i.e. Union Hill's old TG), it seems 1454 can be added to the pile: There's been quite a bit of traffic tonight about drawing shapes(?). Looks like all the RIDs were in the 2113017 to 2113022 range.

 

[mc48]

Those ID's belong to Irondequoit Fire and that training would also be correct. That TG was Laurelton and could be changed to Irondequoit as they were merged with Ridge Culver which also has TG1456 that could be changed, but I have no idea which would be the Primary of the two.
That TG for AMR was referring to where to park all the times I heard something on it.