Monroe County NY Trunking?

[W2ER]

Noras,

I think the problem is that the PL setting still show in the database. If you go through each channel and remove the 203.5 CTCSS/PL tone you should be able to hear everything. If you need help let me know, I can probably help you over the phone or via IM.

Ed
W2ER

 

[INDY72]

For the poster with an 106 I can make you a win500 file for Monroe County and set it up for you as I still have a few days on my win500 free where I was helping a friend get his 106 set up for Wyolink, and the SD TRS...

 

[W2ER]

I did some checking today and the control channel is definitely coming from the Cobbs Hill radio site.

Ed

 

[Thunderbolt]

Several weeks ago, when there was massive tropo ducting all over the eastern half of the USA, myself and another person were listening to a Motorola TRS on 460.150 MHz. There was a 3600 baud data channel on that freq., and the system ID was 0D14. However, we were never able to pin down it's location, but since we were hearing 70cm band activity into Toronto and Quebec, we concluded that it must have been Canadian. Nonetheless, the next night we heard it on 460.300 for several minutes until the signal faded out.

73s

Ron

 

[DaveNF2G]

SysID 0d14 is Massachusetts State Police, as was stated earlier in this thread.

I think somebody at Radio Center is playing around, maybe with an interop bridge of some sort.

 

[W2ER]

The sysid was changed to A474 on 2/28. I'm no discounting someone is just playing around, but it has been up there non stop for 10 days.

Ed

 

[W2ER]

Several weeks ago, when there was massive tropo ducting all over the eastern half of the USA, myself and another person were listening to a Motorola TRS on 460.150 MHz. There was a 3600 baud data channel on that freq., and the system ID was 0D14. However, we were never able to pin down it's location, but since we were hearing 70cm band activity into Toronto and Quebec, we concluded that it must have been Canadian. Nonetheless, the next night we heard it on 460.300 for several minutes until the signal faded out.

73s

Ron

460.150 is also a Monroe County frequency which I don't normally monitor. Since I monitor 460.300 I noticed it because my scanner was stuck on that channel. Sometime between the evening of 2/27 and the afternoon of 2/28 they changed the sysid from 0D14 to A474

Ed

 

[Thunderbolt]

Now that I think about it, there were plans for Monroe County to erect a mixed-mode Project 25 TRS. This goes back 2-3 years ago, and they submitted a "slow growth," five-year application, which was approved by the FCC and CRTC. However, when the license expired, they forgot to renew it.

The goal was to have all Monroe County public safety and local government users online by sometime in 2012. I wonder if this is the TRS project they are working on? Very interesting developments.

73s

Ron

 

[INDY72]

Keep on it guys, I will be in MC in just a couple of weeks, and will snoop around electronically too... It could be a interop bridging testing, or it may be an new precursor to trunking. Keep watching the FCC licenses...

 

[W2ER]

It looks like this is what is on 460.300 in Monroe county, Motorola Type II VOC - The RadioReference Wiki.
I used TrunkPCR to look at the CC Dump, and this is what I see:

Ed
W2ER

 

[DaveNF2G]

Can anyone validate the A474 SysID?

 

[W2ER]

Is this info helpful to anyone? It looks like only 2 radios have used the channel since I started watching it. Not sure what the Stat or Net numbers mean.

 

[INDY72]

Now what is needed is hard monitoring vias T88 and UT and get bandplan, other freqs etc.. Then listen to traffic and id who is using it. May be an utility or someone.. If it was Monroe County Public Safety it would be a LOT busier and wouldn't be analog lol. But being that it is an cc on the same freq as MC.. That will make monitoring that MC freq on an 96 a tad tricky. Seems ya may have indeed found an new TRS... If so, congrats! I will also play with it on the 92B and see what I hear if you have not unravelled it in next few weeks...

 

[DaveNF2G]

460.300 is unassigned in the new P25 lineup. Nothing to monitor except the mystery CC.

 

[INDY72]

According to the OP it is being used P-25 , as he monitored digital voice on it. The voice interupts the CC sounds.... Thats what got me intruiged in this thread... This was confirmed by the second poster. So Dave, 460.3000 is indeed being used by MCSO in some capacity, possibly tactical/supervisory? And its also an 3600 Motorola CC... and with Ron's info could have an ACC of 460.1500...???

 

[d_strong]

The mystery control channel 460.300 has gone silent?

 

[W2ER]

I'm no longer hearing it either. I checked to see if it popped up someplace else, but I'm not hearing anything.

Ed
W2ER

 

[INDY72]

LOL.. well that could mean it changed freqs.. has been shut off till the whole system is reset, or any number of things... I would do an search of the UHF 453.0 - 454.0 and 460.0 - 461.0 to see if any other freq has popped up with the CC and that SysID. If it is indeed an new undocumented TRS, then there are at least 5 freqs on it. (Usual for Motorola TRS minimum is 5 freqs.)

 

[DaveNF2G]

Actually, the absolute minimum for a TRS is 1 channel, as in Motorola VOC or EDACS-SCAT.

I guess everybody prefers to believe that Monroe County is going trunked, despite a complete lack of plans or funding to do so. Enjoy your dreams.

 

[INDY72]

As an admin, I am curious when ANY new uncharted TRS pops up.. It may not be Monroe Co.. Just curious as to where it is, and if its live, need to get it documented. Or if its an "shadow" of some kind, how to keep others from having issues with it. The data dumps from the trunking software were very interesting. If this thing pops back up and we can nail it down will be useful for the db for info purposes.