I have both radios up and running now. Now we need to get some more of the MCPD TG's as well.
Montgomery County PSSM Program update
- Thread starter maus92
- Start date
Exciting!!
We have all of the Alpha Channels.
TG 6000: A1 District 1 Dispatch (Rockville)
TG 6005: A2 District 2 Disatch (Bethesda)
TG 6010: A3 District 3 Dispatch (Silver Spring)
TG 6015: A4 District 4 Dispatch (Wheaton)
TG 6020: A5 District 5 Dispatch (Germantown)
TG 6025: A6 District 6 Dispatch (Montgomery Village)
What other channels are you looking for?
The Charlie Channels are going to be hard to find since they are encrypted and the Bravo channels are going to take a few weeks or even months to decypher unless someone leaks that info
Ok i was looking for the Bravo Channels and all the local PD plus MD CHART
Ahhhhh I see the CHART Would be handy. I will keep an ear out and see if I hear anything.
I know it is on D3 under the SHWY MD 1st Tgs but the area that i am in aspen hill makes it kinda hard to get md 1st
Why would the mutual aid channels need to be secured ??? All 4 of them???
- Joined
- Aug 15, 2017
- Messages
- 54
Are we sure that it is Mutual Aid Secure and not Metro Alt Secure as we have on the P16 system? Just curious because i haven’t been able to verify one way or another.
Lol, it's hard to verify any encrypted channel. But it could very well be Metro Alt Secure (whatever that is.)
We are sure.
The alternating two-tone is our evacuation tone.
On Georgia Ave today near Rescue Company 2, I was receiving MSP Centerville on the Anne Arundel Simulcast of FIRST at -90 dBm. Surprisingly, the new MC P25 was just about unusable paralleling Rock Creek from East West Hwy into Kensington.
I was looking over the new Police TG's and if you look there are blank numbers not being used between example TG A3 Silver Spring which is 6015 and A4 Wheaton which is 6020. Now where do you think they might hide B3??? Mabe somewhere between 6016 and 6019? I know its extra TG to program into your radios or scanners right now but it might pay off in the long run. If you were writing new TG's numbers using the format that is known already, or when it does go live, if someone has an SDR set up or Unitrunker if it will do phase 2 then we can get the B channels that way as well. There is one thing we do have on our side and that is TIME to figure it out... Also has anyone heard anything about what the TG might be for the ICC PD ,ICC Maintenance, MD Chart which is also on the MD 1st system is SHA D3 as well.
Mr_Boh
Member
Based on what's been seen so far, it seems like all TGIDs are 4 digit, ending in multiples of 5, where the first digit represents agency/purpose. There is zero point in trying to "hide" talkgroups, because to your point, someone with a $20 dongle on Amazon can figure out talkgroup numbers, not necessarily the traffic on them, but at least that they exist, so why not you the radio administrator make it easy on yourself and stick to a format?
So sometimes in these SmartX-based transitions, you see patching of talkgroups between the system (like Suffolk, NY). Here we haven't seen that based on what's been captured on the P25 system so far. So unless the police equivalent of Dallas Lipp shows up here (doubtful) we may just have to be patient and wait until the system is on the air for folks to start "filling in the gaps" of the database of the system.
That said, I fully expect with the population of Montgomery County, and, based on this thread, the amount of folks that actively monitor it to know within hours of an agency like the MTA ICC Police and CHART to have their new talkgroups found. They could also potentially do a system patch at the same time.
So we may not have this before the cutover begins, which could happen any day now. But your patience will be rewarded
So sometimes in these SmartX-based transitions, you see patching of talkgroups between the system (like Suffolk, NY). Here we haven't seen that based on what's been captured on the P25 system so far. So unless the police equivalent of Dallas Lipp shows up here (doubtful) we may just have to be patient and wait until the system is on the air for folks to start "filling in the gaps" of the database of the system.
That said, I fully expect with the population of Montgomery County, and, based on this thread, the amount of folks that actively monitor it to know within hours of an agency like the MTA ICC Police and CHART to have their new talkgroups found. They could also potentially do a system patch at the same time.
So we may not have this before the cutover begins, which could happen any day now. But your patience will be rewarded
Last edited:
Just a heads up it looks like coincidently Montgomery County, PA is also getting a new P25 system and I accidentally stumbled across their Forum post so just a heads up don't get confused like I did haha lol
Yup, they do - 30+ tower sites; 2 simulcast cells. They are NOT happy that their police agencies are now encrypted.
- Joined
- Aug 15, 2017
- Messages
- 54
Thanks capt!
Takoma Park Police Department? I believe it is currently A12 for dispatch and B12 for Ops. They also had two tac channels (W9/W10.) These are all on the King portion of the fleetmap.
do you want to post a link to that new fleetmap? i do not see the king part of the fleetmap..
Takoma Park PD A12 is TG: 6375
Similar threads
