Montgomery County TG J10

[jeffkraussws]

There was a request this past weekend for a MCFRS medical unit to switch to talk group J10 for a victim with heat exhaustion, probably during a race. I don't find J10 in the database. Any advice?

 

[empire550]

Probably an event channel. Have you tried just openly scanning the system to find the TG number?

 

[jkahn]

There was a request this past weekend for a MCFRS medical unit to switch to talk group J10 for a victim with heat exhaustion, probably during a race. I don't find J10 in the database. Any advice?

Don't bother looking. It will be encrypted for HIPPA security reasons. All 7 "J" talkgroups are for special events and are at the top of the Interop group on the DB

 

[WG3K]

Don't bother looking. It will be encrypted for HIPPA security reasons. All 7 "J" talkgroups are for special events and are at the top of the Interop group on the DB

HIPAA doesn't apply to EMS in this particular case as they are not exchanging electronic information regarding a patient's insurance claims, benefit eligibility, referrals, insurance plans, or billing. EMS doesn't identify a patient by name to the hospital over the radio so it's all considered de-identified health information and not covered by HIPAA. It's likely more about general patient privacy, since encryption is now cheap. There are plenty of systems that are used to exchange this type of information that aren't encrypted and are used every day.

 

[maus92]

The Public Safety J Zone is about 1/2 clear and 1/2 encrypted, with ENC starting at J9. J10 is PS 2 S. J1-J7 are Special Events channels, and are not supposed to be ENC.

 

[Chris52]

Off topic a bit but has anyone heard anything on 150.995 lately ? It’s the VHF patch mostly to 7A1

Also on a side note, TG 3690 is FMARS coming off of Montgomery Counties system. Pretty neat !

 

[motorcoachdoug]

Question for everyone. Does anyone have the TG number for 7A15 which is talk around? I also suspect it is RINS3 which is used by mcfd

 

[jpb]

There is no TG number. It's not on the trunked system. It is an analog simplex frequency. From the database at Montgomery County, Maryland (MD) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

852.2375

WPWB302

M

156.7 PL

MCFR 7A15 FDTA

7A15 FD Talk Around

 

[motorcoachdoug]

Right but if you look at the Radio One Red book listing the different zones of MCFD you will see that it is on channel 15 in the a zone

 

[motorcoachdoug]

which means they gave it a TG number to reference it in conventional set up

 

[maus92]

It means that there is a knob position in the radio.

 

[Dispatcher308]

which means they gave it a TG number to reference it in conventional set up

You need to read up on your radio stuff again.

 

[Dispatcher308]

HIPAA doesn't apply to EMS in this particular case as they are not exchanging electronic information regarding a patient's insurance claims, benefit eligibility, referrals, insurance plans, or billing. EMS doesn't identify a patient by name to the hospital over the radio so it's all considered de-identified health information and not covered by HIPAA. It's likely more about general patient privacy, since encryption is now cheap. There are plenty of systems that are used to exchange this type of information that aren't encrypted and are used every day.

Actually it does, because it contains PHI which is protected health information, which covers the patients' health status.

"PHI has been defined in HIPAA as any individually identifiable health information that is created, received, used, maintained, or transmitted by a covered entity or business associate that relates to an individual´s physical or mental health condition, treatment for the health condition, or payment for the treatment."

You should try reading up a bit more.

 

[motorcoachdoug]

You need to read up on your radio stuff again.

Yep you are correct . I stand corrected as well. Thank you ....

 

[ResQguy]

Actually it does, because it contains PHI which is protected health information, which covers the patients' health status.

"PHI has been defined in HIPAA as any individually identifiable health information that is created, received, used, maintained, or transmitted by a covered entity or business associate that relates to an individual´s physical or mental health condition, treatment for the health condition, or payment for the treatment."

You should try reading up a bit more.

Actually, it does not. APCO published a good story on this long ago. HIPAA Didn’t Kill the Radio Star | Public Safety Communications And any EMS provider that communicates PHI on the radio needs to be retrained, because it is not relevant to emergency transport.

 

[W4EMS]

Perhaps this should be discussed in a legal forum since it will be attorneys and a judge who ultimately decide.

 

[Dispatcher308]

Actually, it does not. APCO published a good story on this long ago. HIPAA Didn’t Kill the Radio Star | Public Safety Communications And any EMS provider that communicates PHI on the radio needs to be retrained, because it is not relevant to emergency transport.

Thanks Resqguy, Interesting read, but you discuss the patients' health/mental conditions while consulting and you come up with a treatment plan while enroute to the hospital with medical command, how could it not?

 

[maus92]

One reason why an EMS entity would require encrypted comms is to relay access information (i.e. a gate or elevator code, door combo, etc.) needed for a property where a patient is located. HIPPA however is not a justification. If it were, MIEMSS would have already encrypted the Med channels they control.

 

[ResQguy]

Thanks Resqguy, Interesting read, but you discuss the patients' health/mental conditions while consulting and you come up with a treatment plan while enroute to the hospital with medical command, how could it not?

I feel like you may not have read every paragraph of the linked document.

 

[jeffkraussws]

With all the consults and notifications I've heard on MCFRS tgH2, I've never heard a patient's name.