Moore Site on Trunker Maybe?

[freqscout]

On 866.925 I have Site 8. On 867.75 I have Site 26 (OKC).

Can someone tell me if Site 8 is Moore or maybe something else. I got some voice traffic on it from Troop A and R. The frequencies that are coming up on it are 866.925 CC, 867.1625, and 867.75. I am receiving the site at varying levels from 80%-95% (Actually better than OKC Site) on my HH. The Trunker says 98% but that is what it was on when it rotated off of OKC's site, so I am not sure as to it's real-time accuracy.

Trunker info for Site ID: Type II Astro NetWkd 97.3 Hz H<8>, SysId: 092c. Type: ?2?2222? (added "Astro" and "H" and second "2" in type at about 0135 hrs)

Freq Just added: 866.0375 (1325 Hrs)
Digital TG Active 12336- Radio Techs. (1327 hrs)
New Site tells you when it CW ID's and on what channel (1336 hrs)

 

[freqscout]

This could be a different cell from Moore.
I am getting affiliations on the site from Troop Y (Turner/Kilpatrick). If this is separate from the OKC site's control patch then this could mean that the site is up north somewhere near the turnpikes. If it is on the OKC control patch then it might just be seeing itself as part of the simulcast even though it doesn't fully exist yet.

The majority of the traffic that I am getting on here is from Troop Y and a little Troop A and R. No Cleveland County (South Side). Got a Village/NH Aff and a Medi-Flight Aff (North side).

 

[freqscout]

Opposite to the OKC site that is listed in the DB the Primary CC is 866.925 and the Alternate is 867.75

 

[woodyrr]

freqscout,

The other day N5BEW1 posted that he went by the Moore site and that they were running a control channel on 866.925.

I added the site to my scanner using cc only, and for the past couple of days, I have been receiving the same stuff on it that I was on OKC. The problem that I had was that I stepped through the frequencies for the OKC site and at the time, that frequency was the only one with control channel data leading me to conclude that either both sites were running the same control channel or that OKC was running on an alternate channel. Right now there are cc signals on 866.9250 and 867.7500 there is a slight difference in signal strength between the signals. I'd say, given the evidence, that site 8 is Moore!

 

[woodyrr]

I have both sites running simultaneously on two different radios. There is a very brief audio delay between the two systems and channel assignments for the same conversation are different. For example

TG: AR1

OKC: 868.5500

MOORE: 867.1625 __________________
RDW

 

[n5bew1]

Right now on OKC/Moore DPS freqs I hear 2 Control channels. The 866.925 is much stronger than the other which I suspect is the Site on NE 36 (i think ??).

 

[woodyrr]

Right now on OKC/Moore DPS freqs I hear 2 Control channels. The 866.925 is much stronger than the other which I suspect is the Site on NE 36 (i think ??).

Are you currently in Norman? If so, I would surmise that the stronger cc 866.925 is Moore.

The sites are definitely not carrying the exact same traffic. Right now, Troop Y Y1 is on OKC (cc 867.75) but not on Moore (cc 866.925)

 

[freqscout]

The OKC Site CC is 867.75. It changed this afternoon. The Moore (? Maybe?) site is on 866.925 and it is site 8 where OKC is site 26 (or at least it has been 26 for a long time). The Moore site comes in better for me on the north side of Lake Hefner. The OKC site is in a pretty significant hole restricting their range and there is a good deal of interference to my line of sight. Moore is almost a straight shot south with little interference other than the curvature of the Earth.

 

[woodyrr]

I guess that you have heard the radio techs adjusting levels. There has been both analog and P25 testing.

They have been referring to "Oklahoma City" and "Moore" as the site names.

 

[freqscout]

I missed that since I had to visit Mr. Treadmill. I see/hear lots of activity on the Analog Test TG. Most of it is just open keying of the TG with no audio.

If there is digital traffic I guess I will have to get me a Digital Scanner. I have been holding out for a while. I have been waiting for the latest greatest HH now that they have the latest greatest mobile. Guess I need to get on the ball.

 

[woodyrr]

I can tell you that with all of these sites coming online, for those of us who program our scanners with our stubby little fingers, the ability of the 996 to share TGs among sites rather than the 396 that requires a TG list for each site is worth its weight in gold.

 

[freqscout]

Have you seen the new Control Head that is coming for them? It is basically a 996 head for your 396.

 

[woodyrr]

Have you seen the new Control Head that is coming for them? It is basically a 996 head for your 396.

I've seen the thread about it. If it doesn't cost as much as a full 996, I'm seriously considering buying one - as well as an additional 996.

 

[StormCrusader]

The Moore site, simulcasting with the OKC DPS site, is to be turned on live tomorrow morning. They have been testing locally it on/off for a couple of weeks, and about the last week or so in wide-area mode.

The sites will initially come up with 10 channels, and will expand to 17 down the road when Norman and Edmond convert to the DPS system (early spring).

Moore plans to leave their VHF PD and FD channels patched for at least a couple of days, but all of their units already have their 800mhz car radios and walkies. There's still some minor things that need fixed or bought before they're completely over, but I'd bet they won't leave it up for very long.

Midwest City Ambulance (who serves Moore) also received radios and will be using them to talk with Moore FD. They'll then likely get to use them as their primary radios down the road with Midwest City converts to 800.

Moore's dispatch also received new radio consoles as part of their Homeland Security grant, and have been using their Elite Gold equipment for about a month.

 

[woodyrr]

That clears things up considerably. I was wondering where all of these new frequencies were going to come from.

As to Midwest City. I am a lifelong resident and I'm curious about this conversion to 800. We passed a bond issue not long ago for public safety improvements, but a radio system wasn't listed as one of them. Is this a done thing, or just a rumor; and where is the money coming from?

Thanks for your information.

P.S. It appears that both the Moore and OKC sites are sharing the same 10 frequencies and today are running two control channels with traffic assigned to two different channels between the sites. Which means that each conversation uses two frequencies. With the addition of Moore traffic, isn't the system likely to be overloaded?

 

[n5bew1]

Are you currently in Norman? If so, I would surmise that the stronger cc 866.925 is Moore.

The sites are definitely not carrying the exact same traffic. Right now, Troop Y Y1 is on OKC (cc 867.75) but not on Moore (cc 866.925)

Yes I am in East Norman and the OKC dps site has always had a sucky signal down here.
Looks likes the system may blossum Wed AM.
Ken

 

[StormCrusader]

My understanding is that Homeland Security is looking at MWC as their next project. Virtually all of the new 800 sites and users are being funded either by homeland security or police grants.

 

[woodyrr]

My understanding is that Homeland Security is looking at MWC as their next project. Virtually all of the new 800 sites and users are being funded either by homeland security or police grants.

Thanks! I know I didn't pay for it.

freqscout, hence reason for the the additional 996!

 

[freqscout]

However they do it, the outcome will be a large amount of PD traffic that is solely in 800Mhz which will help with the interop stuff all across the board (Not that I care to start another interop discussion).

Woodrr: Yes I do!

 

[woodyrr]

However they do it, the outcome will be a large amount of PD traffic that is solely in 800Mhz which will help with the interop stuff all across the board (Not that I care to start another interop discussion).

Woodrr: Yes I do!

Don't get me started on Midwest City and 800 MHz - They need a TRS about as much as I do - but that's a subject for another day - we've already hijacked too many threads today.