more new Uniden Scanners: SC230 / BR230 / BCD396T

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UPMan

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I've got some good news :D and some bad news :cry: .

The good news is that some of the information is correct.

The bad news is that many of the images and details are not correct or use internal jargon that could be confusing (for example, PD=Production date, which precedes sales availability date by up to 3 months). This information (first put on the web at another site) came from a Uniden Confidential presentation that was prepared last year. These are "straw man" proposals, and, other than the models and features Uniden has actually announced, no credibility should be given to appearance, features, or even the eventual existence of all of these models.

While no control can actually be exercised that will put the cat back in the bag, Uniden has requested that the sites remove the information to prevent confusion. Information leaks like this make my ability to share some advanced, credible, and accurate information on forums such as this very difficult.
 

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"whats up with removing the pics "

Read the message right above yours -- it's pretty clear.

"tell uniden to piss off"

Bite the hand that feeds you? What would that accomplish?
 

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All I am saying is if they don't want stuff release on the net then they should not put them in e-mails or Power Point or whatever you know someone will put it on the web for every nerd like us to see and drool over!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
 

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Information leaks like this make my ability to share some advanced, credible, and accurate information on forums such as this very difficult.

I disagree. :) I think that the opposite is true, and I for one am very appreciative that you have taken the time to provide the hobby with an authoritative channel of information.

If everybody else is saying something about a product and it doesn't line up with comments that you have provided us .. they can go fly a kite. :)
 

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I meant it could introduce an added layer of review to my posts that could delay or constrain what I say. I've enjoyed a free hand up to now (and I've been around for years, one way or another, even though this "persona" is not that old).

I do appreciate the enthusiasm and intelligence of this community, and hope to be able to continue to drop high quality "info bombs" every now and then.
 

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with apologies....

that is why i won't buy another uniden product.... the people who really use their stuff can't make any real comments on their manufacture....only figure out how to use them after they have been put on the market....
 

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with apologies....

that is why i won't buy another uniden product.... the people who really use their stuff can't make any real comments on their manufacture....only figure out how to use them after they have been put on the market....
 

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Well, you didn't need to say it twice. :lol:
I assure you, users are consulted and listened to.

To wit:

* Changing to AA batteries
* Improving the size
* Increasing the memory, and truly moving beyond the 10-bank limit
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Of course, my opinion is going to be a bit biased :p but if you don't buy Uniden, you are going to miss getting to play with a lot of the very things you have asked for.
 

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UPMan said:
Well, you didn't need to say it twice. :lol:
I assure you, users are consulted and listened to.

To wit:

* Changing to AA batteries
* Improving the size
* Increasing the memory, and truly moving beyond the 10-bank limit
.
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Of course, my opinion is going to be a bit biased :p but if you don't buy Uniden, you are going to miss getting to play with a lot of the very things you have asked for.

And the built-in frequency counter is going to be a killer feature. Of course, I'll wait for the BC296D replacement that includes it, but I am looking forward to it very much. UPMan, do you know it it will be as sensitive as, say, an Optoelectronics Scout? Also, will it 'see' digital transmissions?

Joe M.
 

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UPMAN:

How about a couple of small terminals on the bottom of the scanner to accomodate a drop-in desktop charger??
All of Uniden's Cheap FRS radios include this, & none of RS scanners have this feature.
A drop-in rapid charger would be a great add-on accessory for these new models!!
 

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Performance is still being tweaked, so until I have actual production units, I'm going to hold off on making that kind of competitive analysis. However, I was getting clear hits in a very RF unfriendly environment (outside our offices near DFW airport) at about 200 ft from a 390 mW UHF HT on a early sample. YMMV and will depend on background RF, antennas, xmit power, etc.

In casual testing (i.e. taking it home over weekends to play...er...evaluate performance), I've gotten hits at all the major chain stores (Target, WalMart, etc), drive-thru windows, and a couple of mobile hits from delivery and tow trucks. Haven't had the bad fortune to pull up to an accident or other emergency scene, so no public safety hits. I have not gone hunting for hits...just have happened to catch whatever was nearby where I happened to be. At Arlington Ham-Com, I finally had to turn it off. Everyone talking to each other on their own "secret" simplex channels was too much (but got hits on 2-meter, 440, UHF business band, 900 MHz business band, and VHF business).

As to digital, it depends. The scanner won't be able to get a hit from digital cell phones because of the way the transmitted signal is sliced (and, of course, other than Nextel the frequencies are blocked). It does get hits from FSK/MSK-type and similar "analog modulated" digital.

Sorry, but only a charge jack, no drop-in type charge terminals this time around.
 

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UPMan said:
Well, you didn't need to say it twice. :lol:
I assure you, users are consulted and listened to.

To wit:

* Changing to AA batteries
* Improving the size
* Increasing the memory, and truly moving beyond the 10-bank limit
.
.
.
Of course, my opinion is going to be a bit biased :p but if you don't buy Uniden, you are going to miss getting to play with a lot of the very things you have asked for.

I have a request: Discriminator Tap built in. This way we don't have to wait for the warranty to expire to fully use the scanner! :wink:

It would also be really cool if Uniden would link the internal data slicer to a pin on the PC cable, so one could use programs like trunker without having to tinker inside the scanner. 8)

-AZ
 

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So what kind of frequency range will these be able to receive? I missed the rumor mill pages all together, how disappointing. Will you have to adjust the digital transmissions or not?
 

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UPMan said:
Performance is still being tweaked, so until I have actual production units, I'm going to hold off on making that kind of competitive analysis. However, I was getting clear hits in a very RF unfriendly environment (outside our offices near DFW airport) at about 200 ft from a 390 mW UHF HT on a early sample. YMMV and will depend on background RF, antennas, xmit power, etc.

As to digital, it depends. The scanner won't be able to get a hit from digital cell phones because of the way the transmitted signal is sliced (and, of course, other than Nextel the frequencies are blocked). It does get hits from FSK/MSK-type and similar "analog modulated" digital.

That's not bad range for the power and considering the surrounding signals.

As for the digital, IOW, the signal has to have a carrier (AKA, no true digital captures). Although, I guess it won't matter anyway since it won't receive (read: demodulate) digital anyway. Correct?

Still, that will be a great feature.

Joe M.
 
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