Morris County TRS Article

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Is all Law Enforcement going to be digital? All I can hear now is the road department. I'm waiting for Mount Olive to fix their radios!


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P.S. I saw the new car with the LED's. Their very bright, almost blinding.
 

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Last I heard is every public safety vehicle in the county was going to be equipped with a radio on the county system. Not sure what model radios they are getting (pd, ems, fire). If they get MSC2000s then they are analog only.

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The article said the new system will not replace the current system for police and fire departments. It will suppliment the current system to enable all of the agencies in the county to communicate with each other in regional emergencies.
 

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Morris county TRS Article

I know that Altantic Communications did install the radios for the County.
The past FD Chief of Wantage Twp. told me that Altantic installs radios
made by Kenwood, but has some type of agreement with Royal for radios
made by Motorola.
 

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I would guess the Municipalities would get one radio for the Police Desk's.

It would cost way too much to equip every police, fire and EMS vehicle in every town
 

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no, each emergency service vehicle in the county is going to be equipped. Funding is coming from Homeland Security funds. This will provide true interoperability between the towns and county.

George
 

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So they will equip these rolling "Comm Centers" and not PSAP's? This sounds like people can't co-ordinate as the crap is hitting the fan, they will instead have inter-op 30 minutes AFTER the crap hits the fan. That fits the pre-9/11 mind set of "Co-ordinate after a disaster happens, not as it is happening."

Seems like it would be a better idea to equip the PSAP's, the police shift supervisors, and the command centers. This way as the command vehicles are being sent to the scene of the emergency, the PSAP can be filling them in on the problem. The shift supervisor is presumeably on scene, and that would be "Imediate Interoperability" and not "Interoperability 30 minutes after s**t blows up"

The equipping of the shift supervisors' vehicles would be two fold:

First it gives the PSAP a backup communications link, and it feeds them on time info, or bypasses the PSAP and lets Town A's shift SGT talk to Town B's shift Sgt direct, minimizing the lost info between overworked dispatchers. It would feed info from the supervisor to the command vehicles as they are being rolled out of the garadges.

Secondly, if the inter-op system is being abused by a bored dispatcher, at 0-dark hundred, when no emergency exists, his supervisor hears it, and silences the problem before other agencies get annoyed and go over his head to deal with the problem.

Thats just my humble opinion, I hope they think of things like this in their planning.
 

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Not sure what they are doing for the dispatch centers but I do know that all emergency vehicles will be equipped.

This way when town A on low band is at an accident scene with twon B who is on high band, they can communicate directly.

Also when a fire or ems vehicle covers for another town they too can talk direct.

I would hope they are equipping the dispatch centers too as that would be the best overall solution.

George
 

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If every vehicle is getting the radios to be able to talk on the County TRS, then why not convert every municipality to the County TRS and eventually do away with the existing frequencies? This is the way is in many states such as California and Arizona for example. You'll have true interoperability then. Seems a waste to have all these different frequencies in the different bands AND the also have a TRS radio too.

Just my two cents anaway.
 

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one simple answer -

Frequencies!

Not enough channel resources on the system to support all the individual user groups that would be required if the towns used the system in place of their own communications systems in place today.

And to top it off, each town that now has it's own communications system would most likely be unwilling to lose control over that communications system. Each town is like a little kingdom and they do not like to share.

Take Bergen County for example, 70 towns and almost no joint/regional dispatching.

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Seems that Warren County is the only one that really has things centralized.

I bet if you take all the Morris Co. agencies that have UHF frequencies and make them part of the TRS system there would be enough available frequencies. Not every town would need their own talkgroup. Most of the smaller ones could share one. Same goes for the FD and EMS.

But like most things if it makes sense then it won't be done.

Okay, I'm getting off my soapbox now!
 

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Morris county TRS Article

In today's Daily Record, there are two legal notices.

1) To finish buying the radios for the trunked system, to complete system.

2) to buy new radios for the interoperability radio system, which is phase
one.

Both items were approved on 11 may 05 and there's a twenty day period
of limitation.
 

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New Jersey...The HOME RULE State. :shock: If we regionalize our services, our tax burden will probably go down and services may actually improve but, we'll need fewer Chiefs, Captains, Lieutenants, and Commanders. :cry: No one wants to give up their own turf and local power base, let alone a current or future ego shot and title to go along with it (whether paid or volunteer). AUTONOMY UBER ALLES is their cry; for change, at any price, must be avoided and fought against with all of our fury and might. :roll:
 
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