Morrow County / Umatilla County New P25 Licenses

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Their RFI they put out a few years ago said they were going to have five encrypted talkgroups and two would be linked via RSSI to the state of Oregon's P25 system.
 

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The switchover has begun. Hermiston has fully switched. Pendleton and the counties can't be far behind. Now if only I had the talkgroups.
 

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Well, so far we have at least two encrypted TGIDs. I am doing a Trunking Discovery on my BCD536HP and I am so far disapointed with what I am hearing.
 

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It’s been noted in local media that public safety will be fully encrypted due to people showing up at incidents, sometimes before police and fire
 

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I've heard that when it is fully up and running all LE channels will be encrypted. Fire channels won't.

Here are the TGID's i've found so far.
30214 EMS Ops
30215 UC Fire Tac 1
30217 UC FIre Tac 2
30101 UC Sheriff - encrypted

I've heard this Simulcast system has 5 sites i believe with up to 5 frequencies per site. Still lots more to discover.
 

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Are you sure on 30101? I was thinking it was Hermiston. The city of Hermiston has completely switched over, Fire, Police, etc. Umatilla City has as well.
County is still on the 400. Or at least that is my understanding from my sources.
 

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yes, there are some patches between the 400 system and the new system until all entities have switched. From what i understand, Umatilla county all have the new system installed. Morrow county should be happening soon.

i need to get my new antenna installed soon so i can figure out more.
 

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Do you have any more specifics on the site frequencies, NAC codes, etc so we can get something in the database?
 

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DSD+ shows NAC 254 on CC freq 769.61875 MHz

still playing with Unitrunker and SDRTrunk

monitoring with low-end SDR (2x RTL-SDR, 1x HackRF) from the Helix area
 

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using SDRTrunk i am able to pick up at least 3 of the trunks, will be looking for others.

i am new to this, but i can say there are some phase 2 calls and many are unfortunately encrypted with AES-256.

but for now, hope this helps some...

769.29375 MHz
Network
WACN:BEE00[781824] SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] LRA:00[0]

Current Site
SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] RFSS:A9[169] SITE:D1[209] LRA:00[0] STATUS:ACTIVE RFSS NETWORK CONNECTION
PRI CONTROL CHANNEL:0-47 DOWNLINK:769293750 UPLINK:799293750

Neighbor Sites
SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] RFSS:A9[169] SITE:A1[161] LRA:00[0] CHANNEL:0-99 DOWNLINK:769618750 UPLINK:799618750 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] RFSS:A9[169] SITE:A9[169] LRA:00[0] CHANNEL:0-451 DOWNLINK:771818750 UPLINK:801818750 STATUS:[CONVENTIONAL CHANNEL, VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CO>
SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] RFSS:A9[169] SITE:B1[177] LRA:00[0] CHANNEL:0-179 DOWNLINK:770118750 UPLINK:800118750 STATUS:[CONVENTIONAL CHANNEL, VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CO>
SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] RFSS:A9[169] SITE:B9[185] LRA:00[0] CHANNEL:0-391 DOWNLINK:771443750 UPLINK:801443750 STATUS:[CONVENTIONAL CHANNEL, VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CO>
SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] RFSS:A9[169] SITE:C1[193] LRA:00[0] CHANNEL:0-127 DOWNLINK:769793750 UPLINK:799793750 STATUS:[CONVENTIONAL CHANNEL, VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CO>

Frequency Bands
BAND:0 FDMA BASE:769000000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:30000000
BAND:1 TDMA BASE:769000000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:30000000 TIMESLOTS:2
769.61875 MHz
Network
WACN:BEE00[781824] SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] LRA:00[0]

Current Site
SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] RFSS:A9[169] SITE:A1[161] LRA:00[0] STATUS:ACTIVE RFSS NETWORK CONNECTION
PRI CONTROL CHANNEL:0-99 DOWNLINK:769618750 UPLINK:799618750

Neighbor Sites
SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] RFSS:A9[169] SITE:A9[169] LRA:00[0] CHANNEL:0-451 DOWNLINK:771818750 UPLINK:801818750 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] RFSS:A9[169] SITE:B9[185] LRA:00[0] CHANNEL:0-391 DOWNLINK:771443750 UPLINK:801443750 STATUS:[CONVENTIONAL CHANNEL, VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CO>

Frequency Bands
BAND:0 FDMA BASE:769000000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:30000000
BAND:1 TDMA BASE:769000000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:30000000 TIMESLOTS:2
771.44375 MHz
Network
WACN:BEE00[781824] SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] LRA:00[0]

Current Site
SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] RFSS:A9[169] SITE:B9[185] LRA:00[0] STATUS:ACTIVE RFSS NETWORK CONNECTION
PRI CONTROL CHANNEL:0-391 DOWNLINK:771443750 UPLINK:801443750

Neighbor Sites
SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] RFSS:A9[169] SITE:A1[161] LRA:00[0] CHANNEL:0-99 DOWNLINK:769618750 UPLINK:799618750 STATUS:[VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]
SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] RFSS:A9[169] SITE:A9[169] LRA:00[0] CHANNEL:0-451 DOWNLINK:771818750 UPLINK:801818750 STATUS:[CONVENTIONAL CHANNEL, VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CO>
SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] RFSS:A9[169] SITE:B1[177] LRA:00[0] CHANNEL:0-179 DOWNLINK:770118750 UPLINK:800118750 STATUS:[CONVENTIONAL CHANNEL, VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CO>

Frequency Bands
BAND:0 FDMA BASE:769000000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:30000000
BAND:1 TDMA BASE:769000000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:30000000 TIMESLOTS:2

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just heard radio techs talking about an "addressing issue", after 769.61875 MHz went down for ~10 minutes and came back up.

after looking i noticed a frequency change on site 169-169.

previously 771818750, now 771268750.

(shown on all 3 trunks)
SYSTEM:18B[395] NAC:254[596] RFSS:A9[169] SITE:A9[169] LRA:00[0] CHANNEL:0-363 DOWNLINK:771268750 UPLINK:801268750 STATUS:[CONVENTIONAL CHANNEL, VALID INFORMATION, ACTIVE RFSS CONNECTION]

i cannot edit the previous post so i will save it for a next post with hopefully more info.

i also heard "all 3 sites" so i assume there are only 3 trunks, with primary and alternate freqs?

hope this is helping towards getting the system into the database.
 

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currently streaming a few unencrypted talkgroups.

30215 - PEND FD(?)
30251 - PEND FD(?)
30214 - PEND EMS(?)
30065 - Radio Maintenance


need help determining who's who, via talkgroup and radio IDs in the alpha tags.

if/when someone else is able to provide a better feed with more coverage, i will end up stopping this feed. mostly for testing at the moment.

thanks
 

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Here are the TGID's i've found so far.
30214 EMS Ops
30215 UC Fire Tac 1
30217 UC FIre Tac 2
30101 UC Sheriff - encrypted
sounds right from what ive seen so far.

looks to be loosely organized by 301xx 302xx 303xx 307xx etc.

30101 encrypted
30121 encrypted
30171 encrypted
30505 encrypted
38158 encrypted

TG 30107 - UCSO Tac 1 unencrypted

TG 30251 - related to UC Fire Tac 1, chiefs radio?

TG 30313 - East Umatilla Rural Fire & Rescue
TG 30321 - East Umatilla Rural Fire & Rescue

TG 30714 - Morrow County Fire?
TG 30741 - Morrow County Fire?

TG 30065 - Radio Maintenance

Radio Identifier 6000100 - Dispatch

constantly looking for more. stay tuned to the audio feed notes, will try to update them as i discover new groups and id's.

please post new information if you have found it. we need to get something in the database.
 

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I’m currently hunting in the Pendland Lake area and monitoring Black Mountain site. I’m also watching this thread and will get the entries into the database sometime next week.
 
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