Morrow County / Umatilla County New P25 Licenses

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My uniden Home Patrol 1 trunking scanner won't hear anything but the weather. I am near Hermiston Oregon. I am confused. Is it obsolete? Did they change the system? or is my scanner broken?
 

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My uniden Home Patrol 1 trunking scanner won't hear anything but the weather. I am near Hermiston Oregon. I am confused. Is it obsolete? Did they change the system? or is my scanner broken?
the problem may be that the system is not yet in the database.

if you do not want to wait, you may be able to manually add it into the scanner for now.

your scanner appears to support the new APCO P25 system, as well as the correct frequency range.

758.0000787.9950NFM6.25Public Service Band

you may need to manually configure the trunk frequencies into the scanner. check the FCC licence links in the first post to find the map of the nearest transmitter. the trunk frequency is usually the first one listed.

i am unfamiliar with the scanner, hopefully someone else can help more.

be aware you may not hear police traffic, they seem to have all gone encrypted.
 
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My uniden Home Patrol 1 trunking scanner won't hear anything but the weather. I am near Hermiston Oregon. I am confused. Is it obsolete? Did they change the system? or is my scanner broken?
looks like the HomePatrol-1 only does P25 Phase 1.

you would need the newer HomePatrol-2 to follow P25 phase 2 calls.
 

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Here is a link to the "stagged" system. Umatilla Morrow Radio & Data District
Please use the "submit" button to add information.

I need some further information about the sites.
For each site I need as much of the following as possible:
  • Site number
  • Site RFSS
  • Site NAC
  • Site Name
  • All Site Frequencies
  • Site FCC License
  • General Location of the site
 

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For each site I need as much of the following as possible:
  • Site number
  • Site RFSS
  • Site NAC
  • Site Name
  • All Site Frequencies
  • Site FCC License
  • General Location of the site
sorry i am new to this, i will try to provide what i can.

i am able to see 2 trunks reliably (769.61875, and 769.29375), but 771.44375 fades in and out for me. i am unsure if i picked up all the site info.

i was able to attempt 3 submissions, one for each trunk i could see. submission #'s: 221493, 221498, 221499

please let me know if i missed anything.

if anyone else is able to provide more information, please do.

thanks.
 
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currently trying to map out control and alt freqs for each site i can see, along with their traffic freqs.

being new this is a little confusing, any help is appreciated.

according to the SDRTrunk details for the trunks, and the FCC license pages, it looks like the primary control freq for the site is the first frequency listed for each group of transmitters or site (looking at the Map tab of the FCC license page, hovering over the transmitter). 2-3 transmitters per site?

what about the alternate control?

the other freqs i assume are for traffic?

whatever i find i will add notes to the related submissions.

thanks.
 

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site 169-161 (Pendleton):

769.61875 [Control]
771.76875 [Voice]
772.46875 [Voice]
772.96875 [Voice]
773.94375 [Data]


site 169-185 (Weston):

771.44375 [Control]
772.24375 [Voice]
772.59375 [Voice]
773.69375 [Data]


site 169-209 (Black Mtn?):

769.29375 [Control]
770.59375 [Voice]
771.96875 [Voice]



below are sites i am unable to pull details from, hopefully others can help.

combining the freqs on the FCC transmitter maps, and the list of neighbor sites on 169-209 and 169-161, and the pattern followed by the known sites...


site 169-169 (transmitters in Boardman (Morrow Co), City of Umatilla (Umatilla Co), Hermiston (Umatilla Co)):

771.26875 [Control]
771.81875 [Voice?]
772.66875 [Voice?]
773.46875 [Voice?]
774.66875 [Voice/Data?]


site 169-177 (Heppner (Morrow Co)):

770.11875 [Control]
771.71875 [Voice?]
772.71875 [Voice?]
774.46875 [Voice/Data?]


site 169-193 (SE of Ione (Morrow Co)):

769.79375 [Control]
771.21875 [Voice?]
772.14375 [Voice?]
772.91875 [Voice/Data?]



below are sites i do not know the Site ID for. others will need to help out.


site 169-??? (Pendleton):

769.36875 [Control?]
771.04375 [Voice?]
772.39375 [Voice?]
772.81875 [Voice/Data?]
 

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From my recordings so far:
30701 - Fire department tone outs and traffic for Heppner and Irrigon Fire Departments.
 

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From my recordings so far:
30701 - Fire department tone outs and traffic for Heppner and Irrigon Fire Departments.
awesome thanks! what would you name it?

so far i have heard unencrypted traffic on these TGs. names with ? are guesses.
  • TG 30107 - UCSO Tac 1?
  • TG 30214 - EMS Ops
  • TG 30297 - EMS Ops 2?
  • TG 30215 - UC Fire Tac 1
  • TG 30217 - UC Fire Tac 2
  • TG 30251 - Pendleton EMS
  • TG 30301 - Pilot Rock FD
  • TG 30313 - East Umatilla Rural Fire & Rescue
  • TG 30701 - Morrow County Fire/EMS? or MC Fire Tac 1?
  • TG 30705 - Boardman EMS?
  • TG 30714 - Boardman FD
  • TG 30065 - Radio Maintenance
  • Radio Unit ID 6000100 - Dispatch
 
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I'm working out of town right now. when i get back i'll try to help discover more. I do have numerous unit ids already.
 

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I'm working out of town right now. when i get back i'll try to help discover more. I do have numerous unit ids already.
appreciate it thanks!

i have set up a Broadcastify Calls for the 169-161 (Pendleton) site... again, mostly for testing, not to be relied on. the old laptop is prone to overheating and locking up.


special thanks to kd7jfv for getting the sites into the database so i could create the Calls key :)
 
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i submitted the known TG's for now, submission #221605.

interestingly you can listen to all calls to a certain TG via the Calls platform.

Radio Technicians hard at work, dealing with all those confusing numbers! and wind filtering?! Unknown/Unknown Group Calls Live
 

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Curious what traffic is still on the analog trunk system. The 30000 series talk groups should only be for Umatilla County. Morrow should be in the 25000 range.
 

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Curious what traffic is still on the analog trunk system. The 30000 series talk groups should only be for Umatilla County. Morrow should be in the 25000 range.
those unit IDs are used by the sheriffs offices, they are not radio unit id's.

listening to willstuder's feed i hear OSP still. it is on my dashboard :)

@willstuder i hope you are able to get the system added to your feeds, so i can go ahead and kill mine, and free up the SDR.
 

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those unit IDs are used by the sheriffs offices, they are not radio unit id's.

listening to willstuder's feed i hear OSP still. it is on my dashboard :)

@willstuder i hope you are able to get the system added to your feeds, so i can go ahead and kill mine, and free up the SDR.
I was referring to talk group IDs, not radio IDs.

Specifically, TG 30701 - Morrow County Fire/EMS? or MC Fire Tac 1?. Following the convention that was laid out for digital systems in Oregon, Morrow county should be 25000 series.
 
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