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Moto Setup for Pro95

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Hi ya guys, guess what, I'll be heading into a Moto land here at the end of the week. In Salt Lake City they use Moto I and Moto II. From what I can tell the Moto programming is pretty straightforward but I've never done it before and I have no way to test it out until I get there.

Any hints or suggestions to get it right the first time so I can program the Pro95 in advance?

Yes I have Win95, Yes I checked the RR database for Salt Lake. I had someone who was going to send me a P95 file of Salt Lake but the file got blocked in my email and well, I don't have one, yet. ;)

TIA.
 

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Only the caution to keep it to one system per bank. Since you are using the software, just make sure you make the bank MOT and for the Type I system, make sure you set the fleet map. If you are going to preload the TG's you want, try to keep an open scan bank so you can throw new ones in for later.

BTW, thanks for the help earlier today!
 

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loumaag said:
Only the caution to keep it to one system per bank.
Geographical spacing still doesn't work for Moto systems??? I though Moto just got the freq jump command and went. So any order, and extras ok???? ACK.
 

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Pro-95 said:
loumaag said:
Only the caution to keep it to one system per bank.
Geographical spacing still doesn't work for Moto systems??? I though Moto just got the freq jump command and went. So any order, and extras ok???? ACK.
Yes, geographical spacing does work; however, you also need to take into consideration TG usage. If one system uses TG 144 for the PD Dispatch and you put that in bank 0-01 and another system uses TG 144 for the NCIC channel and you put that in 2-02, even if you only have scan bank 2 active, when TG 144 comes up, it will be the right stuff (NCIC) but it will say PD DISPATCH. Hence, to avoid confusion, stick with one system per bank, unless of course you never use Alpha-Tags as some people on this board claim. :roll:
 

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No Alpha????? Ewwwww.

Ok Here is a P95 I made for going from Reno to Salt Lake City. I don't have the Nevada whip-stitches (150Mhz) programmed yet but I'm thinking this may work..... crosses fingers. ;)
 

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Okay a few notes:

You can't put more than one EDACS site in a bank unless there is no LCN conflict. The same rule about TG confilct applies. EDACS LCN numbers can only go as high as 25 real frequencies; LCN's 26-31 are status signals. What all this basically means is that you can't do what you did in Bank 0 and maybe others.

On all Trunking Frequencies, take the Delay off. You don't want the delay to hold you on a trunking frequency under any circumstaces. For that matter, I would cut the ID Delay (ms) to about 500.

Combine banks 5 & 6 into one bank. It is the same system, you really don't need to seperate it, you will only receive one CC at at time :) .

That is all I can see from a quick look. Hope this helps.
 

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You can't put more than one EDACS site in a bank unless there is no LCN conflict.
Ok no conflicts with common freq's in any single bank.
EDACS LCN numbers can only go as high as 25 real frequencies; LCN's 26-31 are status signals. What all this basically means is that you can't do what you did in Bank 0 and maybe others.
I can't have several geographically seperated sites in the same bank if the amount of listed frequencies exceed 25? Even if there is several 3-4 frequency sites in the same bank?
On all Trunking Frequencies, take the Delay off. You don't want the delay to hold you on a trunking frequency under any circumstaces. For that matter, I would cut the ID Delay (ms) to about 500.
Ok.
Combine banks 5 & 6 into one bank. It is the same system, you really don't need to seperate it, you will only receive one CC at at time :) .
So Moto and EDACS are different in regards to how many freq's you can have in a bank and common freq's don't matter, right? The two Moto sites are side by side in the overall UCAN scheme of things. It would seem as though you could receive two CC's traveling down the highway between SLC and DELLE. I could be wrong though.

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Pro-95 said:
loumaag said:
You can't put more than one EDACS site in a bank unless there is no LCN conflict.
Ok no conflicts with common freq's in any single bank.
That is well and good if...
Pro-95 said:
EDACS LCN numbers can only go as high as 25 real frequencies; LCN's 26-31 are status signals. What all this basically means is that you can't do what you did in Bank 0 and maybe others.
I can't have several geographically seperated sites in the same bank if the amount of listed frequencies exceed 25? Even if there is several 3-4 frequency sites in the same bank?
You can't have any EDACS sharing if both of them have a LCN 02 for example. LCN 02 for any system has to be in X02 slot of the X Bank. Since most EDACS systems use LCN's 1, 2, 3, etc., you can't put more than one in a bank. That is what is meant by LCN confilict, not the frequencies.
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On all Trunking Frequencies, take the Delay off. You don't want the delay to hold you on a trunking frequency under any circumstaces. For that matter, I would cut the ID Delay (ms) to about 500.
Ok.
Combine banks 5 & 6 into one bank. It is the same system, you really don't need to seperate it, you will only receive one CC at at time :) .
So Moto and EDACS are different in regards to how many freq's you can have in a bank and common freq's don't matter, right? The two Moto sites are side by side in the overall UCAN scheme of things. It would seem as though you could receive two CC's traveling down the highway between SLC and DELLE. I could be wrong though.
EDACS and Moto are different in that since EDACS uses a LCN scheme, the frequency you program into a certain slot must match what the actual radios in the field have in certain slots (although that is a pretty loose comparison). If 859.7875 is expected to be LCN 2 then you and the real radios in the field expect to find it the 2nd listed frequency. That is the only place it can be and work. Motorola uses channel numbers, those crazy hex numbers you see sometimes when working with base and offset for UHF/VHF systems. In any case the same type of scheme is used at 800 & 900 MHz so the order makes no difference as how you put them in, nor how many you put it. Remember your 95 is like real radios in that it uses CC mode only. You don't need anything programed but the CC's for Moto (of course unless you are sure what they are, it is best to put all of known frequencies in so you don't miss anything.) You can take a very large motorola SmartZone system and if you know all of the CC's (and alt cc's) for the system, you can just put them in a bank and drive around all day long and your 95 will track wonderfully. Might you be in range of two CC's at the same time, well yes, but this really isn't much of an issue for scanner people as ususally you are limiting what TG's you want to hear anyway, so it will look at one, then the other as you move. Remember what I said earlier, it is always best to put seperate Moto Systems in seperate banks, but you can combine all the sites of a single system into one bank.

Have fun on the trip. :)
 

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Thanks!

I missed the coorelation of My Bank x, Channel 2 = LCN #2.

Fricken fracken curs'ed EDACS.

Now I can throw some Moto system freqs behind the fricken fracken EDACS garbage right?

The more I know about this, the more I really like MOTOROLA.
 

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Sorry about the delay in reply, but everyone sleeps sometimes, at least in this house. :D

Pro-95 said:
Thanks!

I missed the coorelation of My Bank x, Channel 2 = LCN #2.

Fricken fracken curs'ed EDACS.
Your welcome. The idea here is to try and help each other. That coorelation you missed seems to be the biggest stumbling block new EDACS scannists have.

Pro-95 (contintued) said:
Now I can throw some Moto system freqs behind the fricken fracken EDACS garbage right?
NO! I mean of course you can put them anywhere, but they won't work there because you have already dedicated the bank to EDACS processing of signals. I am not sure if the MO freqs would be ignored or processed as a conventional channel, but in any case they won't TT as Moto.

Pro-95 (contintued) said:
The more I know about this, the more I really like MOTOROLA.
:shock:
With any luck, that comment won't start a battle. :lol:
 
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