Motorola lawsuit update

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Hytera Asks Court for New Trial, Reduction of Jury-Awarded Damages to Motorola

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[Project25_MASTR]

Here we go again...

 

[N4KVE]

Well since the 3 Hytera employees who stole the “trade secrets“ have no money, Moto has to go after the deep pockets. The employees probably told Moto they invented those features while working for Hytera. But since they have no $, why should Moto sue them?

 

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Motorola Solutions Asks Court for Permanent Injunction Against Hytera

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The octopus spreads its tentacles.

Court Orders Hytera to Keep Assets in U.K. Following Motorola Request

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Hytera, Motorola Solutions propose finishing injunction briefs next month - Urgent Comms

Final written arguments from Motorola Solutions in support of a permanent injunction against Hytera Communications selling certain DMR products would be due on June 23, according to briefing schedule proposed by both parties in the companies’ lengthy federal-court case. Initiated in November...

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[N4KVE]

Well this explains it right here. Sounds reasonable to me. Since the three employees have no money, Moto has to go after the deep pockets.

During the trial, Hytera attorneys acknowledged that three former Motorola [the company had not yet changed its name to Motorola Solutions at the time] employees—Samuel Chia, Y.T. Kok and G.S. Kok—accessed more than 7,000 Motorola documents prior to each of them leaving and joining Hytera shortly in 2008. However, Hytera attorneys described the three engineers as “bad apples” who did not share with anyone else at Hytera that the DMR trade secrets and software were taken from Motorola.

 

[SirJ]

What was the big secret hytera used on their radios?

 

[N4KVE]

Moto claims recent features used in Hytera radios were “borrowed” from them by the 3 ex Moto employees. Hytera removed these features from their new inventory, & by upgrading to FW 9 on radios already out there, these features will also be removed. I don’t know exactly what the specific features are. So stay away from FW 9 on a Hytera radio is like stay away from FW 2.10, & CPS 2 on a Moto radio. No good can come from using either one.

 

[SirJ]

Moto claims recent features used in Hytera radios were “borrowed” from them by the 3 ex Moto employees. Hytera removed these features from their new inventory, & by upgrading to FW 9 on radios already out there, these features will also be removed. I don’t know exactly what the specific features are. So stay away from FW 9 on a Hytera radio is like stay away from FW 2.10, & CPS 2 on a Moto radio. No good can come from using either one.

I have a hytera pd782 with fw 9. Is there a way to downgrade ? It's how it came and it seems to work fine?

 

[N4KVE]

I have a hytera pd782 with fw 9. Is there a way to downgrade ? It's how it came and it seems to work fine?

I don’t think you can go backwards in the FW. I think the features were for trunking users. If you’re using your radio for ham radio use, you shouldn’t notice a difference.

 

[SirJ]

I don’t think you can go backwards in the FW. I think the features were for trunking users. If you’re using your radio for ham radio use, you shouldn’t notice a difference.

Yup just ham use nothing out of the ordinary. Good to know thanks

 

[BMedcom]

I still remember a few years back, I ordered an NX5300, from a local Kenwood dealer. He told me he was now a full Hytera dealer also, and he wished his clients would stop paying big bucks for Kenwood. He showed me some if the Hyteras, and said that Hytera was running circles around Motorola and Kenwood both, and they were doing so good that top engineers walked from Motorola just to be a part of Hytera. He said they are that good. Wonder what he would say now?

 

[MTS2000des]

Intellectual property theft, like any kind of theft, doesn't pay. Hytera knew, or should have known, the employees they hired from MSI brought stolen IP with them. Hytera chose to use the fruits of their crimes to profit. Their business decision was pretty poor in hindsight. Sucks for them. Next time, don't steal.

 

[n1das]

I have a hytera pd782 with fw 9. Is there a way to downgrade ? It's how it came and it seems to work fine?

No FW downgrades are possible that I know of. I have a few UHF PD982 portables and a couple of X1p portables (1 VHF, 1 UHF), all with V9 FW. I also have a couple of UHF RD982-1 repeaters with the latest FW.

After 8 years of ownership, I'm done with Hytera. I'm keeping what Hyteras I have while they last but going full Moto in the future. I am liking Motorola's products better anyway. I might eBay one of the repeaters and some of the portables.

 

[N4KVE]

Our local Florida Statewide DMR Ham System, AC4XQ, uses 8 Hytera repeaters linked all over the state. Except for a FW problem 5, or 6 years ago which took Hytera a year to solve, the repeaters have been trouble free.

 

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Hytera Opposes Motorola’s Motion for Permanent Injunction in Trade Secrets Case

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Hytera has some innovative stuff but piss poor marketing skills. The new wifi based Halo radios look interesting.

 

[ottosykora]

Hytera removed these features from their new inventory, & by upgrading to FW 9 on radios already out there, these features will also be removed. I don’t know exactly what the specific features are. So stay away from FW 9 on a Hytera

features removed? No, some software solutions were replaced by other similar sw solution and features have been added.
I would upgrade any Hytera to FW9 if I had still one with anything less.

The only feature which is kind of half removed is that in analog mode, operationg so called monitor function, or simply disable any squelch, ist now fix set to minimum squelch level 2. Why this needs to be so I have no clue, as squelch off function exist on all radios I can remember.