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Motorola Minitor IV Single Tone Programming Question

jeffd2

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Greetings All.. I have one department that uses only a single tone (553.9) opposed to using a two tone setup. I've programmed the Minitor IV pager using a System Type of "Motorola" and codeplug option of "R168 (None)" which gives me fields for 4 sets of two tones and 2 individual tones. IF I enter the single tone in "Call 1" for both "Tone 1" and "Tone 2" I get an error saying that "The tone you entered does not match the spacing rule" although it will leave the "553.9" in the field. When I test the pager using a Kenwood HT thats transmitting both "Tone A" and "Tone B" as "553.9" the pager fails to alert. IF I don't enter anything in for "Call 1-4" but enter in "553.9" for "Call 5" (a single tone field) and test the pager with the Kenwood HT, again the pager doesn't alert.. Any idea what I am doing wrong or whats the proper way to enter a single long tone for a Minitor IV pager? Any assistance will be greatly appreciated...
 

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Since the tone is a Motorola tone, you should make sure your System (under General) is set to Motorola. For a single long tone, it should be under Tone 5. Is your Duty status set to "On" or "Off" as that can make a difference as well.
 

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Programmed in the single tone on Tone 5 and setup the 4 position switch to use On Duty / Off Duty but still can't get the pager to activate when sending the tone via the Kenwood radio. Position 4 is setup for monitor so when on position 4 of the pager I can verify that the pager is hearing the tone from the Kenwood it just isn't activating the pager.. Thinking it might be the tone coming from the Kenwood isn't sufficient to activate the pager even though it works when I send two tones to the Minitor IV pagers.. The department that these are for is a couple of hours away so I guess I can ship'em and see if they work when toned out by their dispatch.. Tried everything I can think of...
 

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Is the tone duration generated by the Kenwood HT long enough? The Minitor needs at least 5 seconds and ideally 8 seconds of continuous tone for a single tone activation.
 

jeffd2

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Is the tone duration generated by the Kenwood HT long enough? The Minitor needs at least 5 seconds and ideally 8 seconds of continuous tone for a single tone activation.
I'm thinking you may be own to something there.. The Kenwood doesn't offer to transmit a single long tone so I entered the same 553.9khz in for both Tone A and Tone B with no break in between the two tones. I'm thinking it's not transmitting the tone long enough to activate teh Minitor pager...
 

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I'm thinking you may be own to something there.. The Kenwood doesn't offer to transmit a single long tone so I entered the same 553.9khz in for both Tone A and Tone B with no break in between the two tones. I'm thinking it's not transmitting the tone long enough to activate teh Minitor pager...
Standard Motorola tone timing is 1 second for the A tone and 3 seconds for the B tone. The long single tone is 8 seconds. Your Kenwood is providing only 4 seconds of tone which won’t trigger the long single tone in the Minitor. If you can find a Motorola radio that will transmit QC-II tones, it will give you the correct timing. I have both Waris and Commercial Series radios that will do that.
 

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Kenwood radios are capable of encoding a singletone at the correct length of 8 seconds.
OK then, it sounds like OP needs to properly program the long tone in the Kenwood instead of trying to get long tone by programming the same tone in the AB slots. AB is always going to be 1 second/3 seconds. There should be a slot in the programming for long C.
 
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