Motorola Telario

[mr_hankey]

well, looks like the days of GMRS and Mot/Kenwood HT's at local business are gone:

http://www.motorola.com/telario/sysRadio.htm

at least one local HEB grocery store appears to be trying out the Telario system (Wurz and 10)

although it's unscannable (TDMA 1.9Ghz), it seems to be the perfect solution for businesses looking to integrate their telephone and radio (tel-a-rio?) networks for day-to-day operations.

don't forget check out the cool brochure!

 

[greenthumb]

I can't help but to think that some day, public safety digital radio will be TDMA or CDMA..........

 

[mr_hankey]

nope - not reliable enough for emergency communications...

have you ever owned a Nextel phone? have you ever tried Direct Connecting to someone and the call never went through? now imagine being a patrol officer calling for help and your Nextel gives you a "busy tone" when you key the PTT...over and over again...

this unreliability of "radio-on-cell-phone" networks is why multi-million dollar EDACS and Motorola radio systems are still built with phone-patching and direct calling as a -feature-, but not a priority feature.

there HAS been a recent development in cell phone networks though: currently, some cell phones can be programmed to get "priority" time slots in a network for predesignated users (police, fire, ems) - Sprint has such a system in place, but it isn't being fully utilized. basically, what it tries to do is if you and a patrolman try to make a cell phone call at the same time, in the same cell site, chances are he's going to get access to the network faster than you.

but remember, while this feature is in place, it does not appear to really work yet.

if anything, Telario might mean the death of scanning BUSINESSES, but they don't really present any life-or-death situations that necessitate monitoring...

personally, if i ran a business, i'd probably use GMRS radios sparingly and portable DSS telephones for phone calls...but isn't that what most businesses already do?

 

[INDY72]

Not to sure what business in TX use, but most of the businesses I know of use iether SMR trunked nets, or have thier own VHF, UHF, or both VHF/UHF radio nets and dont have anything to do with GMRS, FRS, or any of those types. The individual employees may run cell phones, but most of the coms are done on company radio systems as well as MDT's in the vehicles. A few of the upper crust so to speak, ie: BIG MONEY, companies use dedicated Satcomms also.

 

[mr_hankey]

yeah, i think most businesses soon find that Nextel is 1) expensive and 2) unreliable in use and billing

but that's just my opinion, and it's not stopping some local hospitals from using Nextel for their Maintenance Crews - which used to be on a 900Mhz SMR.

 

[zgafford]

I think it's funny everyone has something bad to day about Nextel. I have had the service for over a year now and LOVE it. Everyone in my family and my girlfriends family are moving to it. We have had no major problems at all. Yea maybe I get a busy signal when trying to connect to the system once in a while but it's the same as any other service. I just made a trip from Sacrament, CA to Spokane, WA with my stepdad. He has a Sprint phone. He had a hard time getting signal unless in a major metro area. I had signal and was able to connect out 97% of the trip.

 

[INDY72]

The problems that most have with Nextel is not thier service,... its that they are spectrum hoggin interfernce causing with DPS systems. Read throughout the forums, youll soon see just what the issue is, as well as read up on the rrdb news info..

 

[zgafford]

I've read all the posting that deal with Nextel and Public Safety frequencies but that doesn't mean I agree with your point of view. I don't think it's fair to blame Nextel for trying to turn a profit. If that means the frequencies encroach on the Public Safety frequencies then that is a problem to be solved by the FCC not to blame on Nextel. They are not doing anything illegal. They are just using the frequencies legally allowed to their business group. If Public Safety has a problem then either they need to complain convince the FCC to fix it or come to some sort of compromise with Nextel. I don't think it's fair to lay all the blame on Nextel

 

[precoislen]

I believe I saw what was some Telario radios at the San Pedro HEB, close to 35..... just in reflection because at the time I wasn't paying that much attention.....

I would have to agree with the unreliability of using Nextel's for Public Safety... great as a secondary means of communication. I get more system busy signals 1/4 of the time I use my nextel here in San Antonio and Houston, but when I was in Miami, it worked flawlessly.... I log at least 1000 minutes of month of radio usage on my Nextel for work.

As far as Nextel being to blame for spectrum interference, I am apt to believe the responsibilty falls on the FCC, but I am not really well versed on the subject and don't have the all the data, but I think Nextel is using the spectrum allocated to them, in good faith, and their should be some compromise bought about soon by the FCC..... I think Nextel is trying to be the better party to help solve the problems, as they are aware they cause some interference, but VZW (Verizon) is causing some hurdles with this also...

 

[INDY72]

The FCC is run on $$$, Nextel had the $$$ for the freqs.... Nextel now has magor $$$ to keep the power they bought. As I stated in another thread, this issue will not be solved in our lifetimes. Unless suddenly all the public safety agencies come up with huge amounts of $$$..... and my friends, in the economical state of most States,... that dog won't hunt! Unless some magor changes happen to the FCC, Money talks, good intentions walks.

 

[SCPD]

ZG LOVES His Nextel?

ZG Hasn't had the problem of trying to dial 9-1-1 off a bussy tower in Rush hour Traffic for a Medical Emergency that Directly affected him! I HATE NEXTEL! (Almost as much as Amature Radio)

I had thought GMRS Was not supposed to be used for Business Practices, Minus the Old companies Grand-Fathered in when the GMRS Band Plan Changed many moons ago. I know alot of Businesses moved to FRS and MURS. But even more of them just bought Business Band Licenses. In D/FW Wall-Mart is the Big Business V/UHF user. but as for about anyone else it's a toss-up between NEXTEL and LTR.

This Telario sounds Like another Motorola Gimick to Make a buck or two on while they slowley go under. There Quality has dropped significantely over the years. And Some Radio Dealers are bailing out of Motorola Alltogeather.

Dallas County Community Collage District Police use the Call-box and Phone-To-Radio thing on a regular basis. and with their share of Difficulties too. Especially in an Emergency.

I dunno!

 

[mr_hankey]

This Telario sounds Like another Motorola Gimick to Make a buck or two on while they slowley go under. There Quality has dropped significantely over the years. And Some Radio Dealers are bailing out of Motorola Alltogeather.

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Max,

they (HEB Grocery Stores) are just looking for a way to integrate their PA, phone, and radio systems.

i, too, would get tired of carrying a 900Mhz phone, Mot HT, pager, and personal cellphone on the same belt every day!

 

[zgafford]

What system is it that Home Depot uses. I know the phones they carry can do pretty much anything and have a huge distance on them

 

[N_Jay]

What system is it that Home Depot uses. I know the phones they carry can do pretty much anything and have a huge distance on them

Most I have seen ate Fujitsu cordless extensions off their PBX, but diferent stores in different areas may use different things.

These are very much like having your desk phone on your hip, rather than being a "Radio" replacement.

 

[mikey60]

This is a cancelled product. Motorola will continue to provide service for existing Telario customers until 2009. If you have any questions please contact your Motorola Authorized Two-Way Radio Dealer or a Motorola Customer Service Representative at 1-800-422-4210.

I guess it's not so good after all...

Mike

 

[mr_hankey]

double-whoa!

i wonder what happened?!?

that was just a little TOO fast to cancel the line - smells like a patent infringement or lawyers involved...

EDIT: they're talking about it on batboard:

http://batboard.batlabs.com/viewtopic.php?p=161055#161055

 

[N_Jay]

double-whoa!

i wonder what happened?!?

that was just a little TOO fast to cancel the line - smells like a patent infringement or lawyers involved...

What do you mean fast?

Maybe after a year or two it just was not selling?