Motorola with multiple Pl tones

[kc5zji68]

Does Motorola make a handheld that allows you to select multiple PL tones for the same frequency?

 

[BoxAlarm187]

Why not just program the same frequency in different channels, with each having a different PL?

 

[AI7PM]

You can program different "in" and "out" tones on a channel. If you need multiple PL sets on a given freq or freq pair, you'll need to make multiple channels.

 

[impalass427]

The last time I saw a MPL switch on a portable was a MT500 with an extended back. (1980s).

 

[SteveC0625]

Does Motorola make a handheld that allows you to select multiple PL tones for the same frequency?

The CP200XLS had the capability of operator selectable PL tones. Just hit EOL in the past year, but lots of them are available on the used market for very reasonable prices.

 

[N4KVE]

System Saber allows you to choose from a list of 16 pre programmed PL tones from the keypad.

 

[ElroyJetson]

Multi PL SP versions have been available since the HT220. In fact, every major Motorola public safety grade portable radio series has had MPL either as a hardware SP option or as a software feature since the HT220, with the notable exception being the Astro products. (Astro Saber, XTS3000) MPL was notably missing from those radios but returned with the Astro 25 line such as the XTS5000.

I'm not sure if the Jedi series had MPL or not. It's been so long since I messed with one of those that I just can't recall. I don't THINK they did.

 

[sfd119]

Why not just program the same frequency in different channels, with each having a different PL?

Because some places require different PL Tones on the same freqs. CAL FIRE being one of the bigger agencies along with other wild land type agencies.

While your solution may be feasible, to program 200 channels in with proper PL would suck if I only had 5 freqs with multi PLs.

 

[SCPD]

The apx, xtl/xts, relm/bk portables are capable of a pre programmed mpl list for a channel. Most non federal users just program channels with different pl or dpl tones.

 

[kayn1n32008]

Take a hard look at Kenwood. TK-x180 or NX-x00 portables/mobiles.

Their version of 'MPL' is called OST(Operator Selectable Tone) not 100% sure on the TK-x180 series, but the NX-x00 series allows 40 PL/DPL pairs(Tx/Rx) that is predefined in the programming software. The nice thing with Kenwood is that they allow non-standard PL/DPL where as Motorola limits you to the TIA standard

IMHO my NX-200 portable is as good an analogue radio as any of the Motorola's mentioned in previous posts.


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[ElroyJetson]

It's foolish to use non-standard PL or DPL tones, No manufacturer should allow it. It creates interoperability problems for radios from other vendors.

I spent more than a couple hours trying to figure out work-arounds to make new Motorola radios work with a customer's existing fleet of Icom or Kenwood radios that some IDIOT had programmed non-standard tones or DPL codes into. Fortunately, most non-standard DPL tones have an alias in the standard DPL list, you just have to find it. And a non-standard PL tone is usually close enough to a standard tone for the standard tone to work. But then again, I've also had to reprogram an entire fleet of customer radios to correct that MISTAKE made by the original programmer.

 

[kayn1n32008]

It's foolish to use non-standard PL or DPL tones, No manufacturer should allow it. It creates interoperability problems for radios from other vendors.

I fully agree... But their use happens, and it's nice to have radios that can do them.


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[gatekeep]

XTS2500 and 5000 have MPL. Last time I checked CPS R20 with a R20 HOST, to use MPL you set the channels to "User Selectable PL" checked, and either add MPL as a button press or menu option.

MTS2000 has MPL as well. I believe the setup procedure is similar to the ASTRO 25's, you set the channel personality to have "User Selectable PL" enabled, and then put MPL as a button press.

AFAIK; MPL was absent from the ASTRO line.

 

[firetaz834]

Just from reading what is being written, having one frequency with mpl would seem more work then having the radio programmed with the frequency/tone in a channel. Because you have to keep a list somewhere of the agency you want to communicate with and there respective tone. Where even in the documentation put out by CAL Fire if on a scene you and another agency are trying to communicate and you can't you just open the monitor button to be able to communicate with each other. By programming the frequency/tone directly in the radio you would have the agency name programmed also and just change channel till you get to them.

 

[Project25_MASTR]

Just from reading what is being written, having one frequency with mpl would seem more work then having the radio programmed with the frequency/tone in a channel. Because you have to keep a list somewhere of the agency you want to communicate with and there respective tone. Where even in the documentation put out by CAL Fire if on a scene you and another agency are trying to communicate and you can't you just open the monitor button to be able to communicate with each other. By programming the frequency/tone directly in the radio you would have the agency name programmed also and just change channel till you get to them.

Depends on the radio. Astro and Astro 25 CPS is not like regular comercial and TRBO CPS. When dealing with conventional personalities you create a pool of personalities (channels). The CPS assigns them a number and you have to remember that number for the next step, assigning the personalities to a zone. When you assign personalities to a zone, you give it an alias (just for that zone). It can have a different alias in another zone.

So for example, if you have 8 different PLs but all the same frequency and you wish to separate it by zone. You could program a single personality with the PLs. Then when you assign the frequency to a zone you can reuse that personality for every zone and change the channel name (put the 2 character Motorola PL code at the end of the channel name so you know what to change the PL to for that agency/district).

That may seem like more work, but when you are dealing with several hundred personalities it simplifies stuff immensely.