Motorola xts 5000 trunking scan

[dank130]

I have a xts 5000 that I just got back from being programmed. It was programmed for nas. When I go to each zone, channels 1-15 are blank but channel 16 is programmed in each zone. I have 6 zones. The guy that programmed the radio told me 1-15 are conventional channels and 16 is the only trunking channel. And that I can only use the radio in scan mode. So I can’t sit on one specific talkgroup.
A friend of mine has a xts 1500 programmed for nas for the same area as me. With his radio he can go to zone and all channels are programmed and he can sit on a specific talk group. Ex. North channel, south channel.
So my question is, is my 5000 programmed correctly?

 

[N4KVE]

The guy who programmed your radio is lazy. The guy who programmed your friend’s radio did it the correct way.

 

[dank130]

The guy who programmed your radio is lazy. The guy who programmed your friend’s radio did it the correct way.

I had a feeling of that. So my radio should be like my friends then correct?

 

[KE4ZNR]

I had a feeling of that. So my radio should be like my friends then correct?

As long as your friends radio is not actually registering/affiliating then yes.

 

[dank130]

As long as your friends radio is not actually registering/affiliating then yes.

Ok. His does not affiliate. Looks like I’ll be looking for someone else to program.
Thank you for your help

 

[pokey]

I have a xts 5000 that I just got back from being programmed. It was programmed for nas. When I go to each zone, channels 1-15 are blank but channel 16 is programmed in each zone. I have 6 zones. The guy that programmed the radio told me 1-15 are conventional channels and 16 is the only trunking channel. And that I can only use the radio in scan mode. So I can’t sit on one specific talkgroup.
A friend of mine has a xts 1500 programmed for nas for the same area as me. With his radio he can go to zone and all channels are programmed and he can sit on a specific talk group. Ex. North channel, south channel.
So my question is, is my 5000 programmed correctly?

Funny, I was told the same as you, and mine are all programmed for scanning talkgroups only (NAS). I didn’t know that it was possible to be able to change channels and sit on specific talkgroups without affiliating. Learn something new every day!

 

[ElroyJetson]

That is not the way. Because it allows you to access the trunking talkgroup directly on channel 16.

The proper way: (I will show this for ONE programmed zone.)
Create a zone of 32 channels. (or more)
Channels 1 thru 16 are conventional channels, each of which has a mode slaved scan list consisting of only TRUNKED talkgroups.
Channels 17 thru 32 (and beyond) are trunked personalities.

The trunked groups in the scan list are members of the trunked personalities that are in the channels 17 and above.

DO NOT have the chan/sub keypad option enabled in the radio. This prevents you from directly turning to a trunked personality, which makes the radio "unsafe", and able to affiliate.

With six zones programmed, all six would follow the same pattern. Channels 1 thru 16 are conventional channels with trunked mode slaved scan lists attached to them. Channels 17 and up are where the trunked personalities are hidden.

Tell your programmer to do it over, following this pattern.

 

[Asunakiyori]

Funny, I was told the same as you, and mine are all programmed for scanning talkgroups only (NAS). I didn’t know that it was possible to be able to change channels and sit on specific talkgroups without affiliating. Learn something new every day!

i suddenly would like to know this technique..... Because i was always told to not sit on the talk group on a moto or you'll affiliate

 

[ElroyJetson]

Refer to the instructions I just gave. That IS the heart of the technique, once you have overcome access restriction issues.

 

[Asunakiyori]

Refer to the instructions I just gave. That IS the heart of the technique, once you have overcome access restriction issues.

i have a similar way though its a 100% 2 separate zones slaved to the scan list