motorolla to boafeng UV-5R V2+

[rigaud0520]

Theoretically if I was trying to transmit?

 

[alcahuete]

I can't seem to get them to work based on the channel summary I shared in a prior post. I'm not sure what to set the ctscc, or carrier squelch to.

The other radios aren't using CTCSS, they are using DCS. One channel is 677, the other is 425. That's what you need to use on your Baofeng for the DCS Transmit, or whatever Baofeng calls it. I don't know, as I don't own a Baofeng.

 

[nd5y]

Here are the the Baofeng radio menus and corresponding CHIRP programming software settings.

Baofeng UV-5R - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

Menu 10 R-DCS is receive DPL or DCS
Menu 11 R-CTCS is receive PL or CTCSS
Menu 12 T-DCS is transmit DPL or DCS
Menu 13 T-CTCS is transmit PL or CTCSS
Setting any of those to OFF disables the function.

 

[alcahuete]

T-DCS needs to be 677 on 452.725, and 425 on 464.525.

 

[n1das]

Here is by far the best DCS/DPL writeup I've been able to find:

DPL / DCS Information

I stick to using Motorola's original set of 83 DPL codes, which are a subset of the 104 standard DCS codes and have been implemented by all manufacturers. Motorola's 83 DPL codes have been fully vetted and are known to work. The additional codes which make up the list of 104 codes might not work as well as Motorola's 83 codes. Also not all manufacturers have implemented the full set of 104 codes beyond Motorola's original 83 codes.

 

[n1das]

T-DCS needs to be 677 on 452.725, and 425 on 464.525.

425 (normal) is a duplicate of 255 (normal). 255 is one of the standard 104 codes.
677 (normal) is a duplicate of 011 (inverted). I don't think the Baofeng has this code. It is not one of the standard 104 codes.

 

[mmckenna]

Theoretically if I was trying to transmit?

Let's focus on getting the Baofeng to receive something first. Set the receive squelch to off/none/N/A or whatever those radios use and try transmitting with the work provided radio. Let us know if you hear the transmission on the Baofeng.

Once you get that resolved, then we'll work on the rest.

One step at a time…..

 

[rigaud0520]

Let's focus on getting the Baofeng to receive something first. Set the receive squelch to off/none/N/A or whatever those radios use and try transmitting with the work provided radio. Let us know if you hear the transmission on the Baofeng.

Once you get that resolved, then we'll work on the rest.

One step at a time…..

I can get it to receive just fine with frequency set correctly. but when i push the PTT button on the Baof the light on the Motorola blinks but doesn't receive any sound or solid transmission.

 

[alcahuete]

425 (normal) is a duplicate of 255 (normal). 255 is one of the standard 104 codes.
677 (normal) is a duplicate of 011 (inverted). I don't think the Baofeng has this code. It is not one of the standard 104 codes.

No clue. I don't own a Baofeng. I'm going off of what he posted from the Motorola CPS.

 

[mmckenna]

I can get it to receive just fine with frequency set correctly. but when i push the PTT button on the Baof the light on the Motorola blinks but doesn't receive any sound or solid transmission.

OK, then that means that the Transmit DCS code is not the same as what is in the Motorola.

Do you have the ability to read the file out of the Motorola?

Also, make sure the radios are not too close together. If you are holding both of them and doing this, it's easy for the transmitting radio to overload the receiver on the other radio and cause issues. Have someone take it in another room and try.

 

[alcahuete]

OK, then that means that the Transmit DCS code is not the same as what is in the Motorola.

Do you have the ability to read the file out of the Motorola?

He already posted it on Page 1. It is using DCS 677 (strange) on one frequency, and 245 on the other.

 

[rigaud0520]

OK, then that means that the Transmit DCS code is not the same as what is in the Motorola.

Do you have the ability to read the file out of the Motorola?

Also, make sure the radios are not too close together. If you are holding both of them and doing this, it's easy for the transmitting radio to overload the receiver on the other radio and cause issues. Have someone take it in another room and try.

so the 255 worked on channel 2 had to hook a mic to the boa cause its garbage and the external mike does not work... but being as the 452.725 is primary the code for 677 is the one i need to figure out if at all possible. you guys rock appreciate all the assistance and knowledge!!

 

[mmckenna]

He already posted it on Page 1. It is using DCS 677 (strange) on one frequency, and 245 on the other.

Yeah, I just want to make sure we're getting accurate info on which radio is doing what.

 

[mmckenna]

so the 255 worked on channel 2 had to hook a mic to the boa cause its garbage and the external mike does not work... but being as the 452.725 is primary the code for 677 is the one i need to figure out if at all possible. you guys rock appreciate all the assistance and knowledge!!

OK. Yeah, a DCS of 677 might be a problem.

I know you said you are using this Baofeng as a way to learn about radio, but they ARE really crappy radios, and without proper test equipment to rule it out, I'd consider the fact that it may be far enough out of whack to not work correctly. We had some show up at a work site. They started complaining that the "repeater system was crap" Repeater wasn't perfect, but on a good radio is was fine. On the Baofengs is was nearly unusable. I put the Baofengs on a service monitor and they were all over the place.

In other words, I'd suspect any issues are on the Baofeng side.

 

[rigaud0520]

OK. Yeah, a DCS of 677 might be a problem.

I know you said you are using this Baofeng as a way to learn about radio, but they ARE really crappy radios, and without proper test equipment to rule it out, I'd consider the fact that it may be far enough out of whack to not work correctly. We had some show up at a work site. They started complaining that the "repeater system was crap" Repeater wasn't perfect, but on a good radio is was fine. On the Baofengs is was nearly unusable. I put the Baofengs on a service monitor and they were all over the place.

In other words, I'd suspect any issues are on the Baofeng side.

I think that is definitely the issue I ordered a better quality one and another brand that seemed like it might work. the end goal is to crosslink to a zello channel. i demoed Tango Tango but it is super pricey for how much it might be used.
the zello which I have only working one way do to the fact the base station I have is essentially the same as the uv5r is also garbage and wont transmit at all. it doesn't even light up when you push the ptt button. I just find radio comms really cool and want to learn more about the different aspects.

 

[alcahuete]

I think that is definitely the issue I ordered a better quality one and another brand that seemed like it might work. the end goal is to crosslink to a zello channel. i demoed Tango Tango but it is super pricey for how much it might be used.
the zello which I have only working one way do to the fact the base station I have is essentially the same as the uv5r is also garbage and wont transmit at all. it doesn't even light up when you push the ptt button. I just find radio comms really cool and want to learn more about the different aspects.

Your problem isn't so much the radio (though the legality of using that radio is certainly a problem), as it is what DCS tones the radio supports. You might have very well wasted your money on another radio if you didn't do any research into the supported tones.

677 is not a standard DCS tone. My Motorola gear supports anything from 000 to 777 in 1 step increments. My Anytone 878 also supports that. My Hytera gear, and ham gear, however, only supports the standard tones.

Your options are to get a radio that supports all the various tones, or reprogram the Motorola radios to a tone that the Baotrash or whatever other radio you get supports.

 

[ElroyJetson]

Check to be sure that both radio types express the DPL code in the same format. If one is decimal and the other is octal, then you'll have to convert from one to the other.

777 octal is 511 decimal. Just that out.

How to find out? See if any DPL code can be entered where any digit is 8 or 9. If it can, then it's accepting decimal. Octal will accept only 0 thru 7 in each digit.