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Thank you for posting. I heard rumors about this new series from a radio vendor. However, my Motorola rep said he could not divulge anything until "First Quarter 2021" but did not have an official date. Me, and my co-workers assumed it would look like the APX Next and be priced too high to realistically implement across a large enterprise. But, we shall see. We do primarily use UHF and 800 MHz, and some office workers want a larger screen than all of the current Trbo equipment, XPR4550/5550e mobiles and 6550/7550e handhelds. PTT from LTE to LMR radio has also been proposed, but is a pipe dream in our use.

Too bad Motorola does not allow promiscuous mode on their TDMA products, may have had to get one for personal use if the cost was not prohibitive.
 

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OK, so it looks cool. From the manual:
1) It says only 3w on high power, not 4
2) SIM Card is proprietary and locked to the phone
3) What frequencies are UHF "wideband"? 403-512mhz maybe. Google didn't help.
4) What is the UHF analog receive sensitivity?
 

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OK, so it looks cool. From the manual:
1) It says only 3w on high power, not 4
2) SIM Card is proprietary and locked to the phone
3) What frequencies are UHF "wideband"? 403-512mhz maybe. Google didn't help.
4) What is the UHF analog receive sensitivity?
Under Table 13 DMR Transmitter, it states "RF Output Power: High: 4W Low: 1W"
 

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Yes, twjr80 you are correct my half-asleep ass was looking at the audio output. DUH
I also found analog receive sensitivity at
Analog Sensitivity (12dB SINAD)
0.16 uV
This is half as good as most Uniden scanners and the MotoTrbos mostly rated .32 uV
 

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Too bad Motorola does not allow promiscuous mode on their TDMA products, may have had to get one for personal use if the cost was not prohibitive.
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Is this Digital Carrier-Operated Squelch option Motorola's name for Promiscuous Mode?
Is the network access code in Moto-speak aka Color Code in DMR-speak?
 
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And there it is:


Me want! :D *DROOL* :D

Anybody know how much $,$$$$.$$ it will cost?
 
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Yes, twjr80 you are correct my half-asleep ass was looking at the audio output. DUH
I also found analog receive sensitivity at
Analog Sensitivity (12dB SINAD)
0.16 uV
This is half as good as most Uniden scanners and the MotoTrbos mostly rated .32 uV
Actually 2x better sensitivity. Lower is better sensitivity. Most Uniden scanners require 0.32uV at the antenna connector for 12dB SINAD. This is only half as good as 0.16uV signal input required for 12dB SINAD at the Ion's antenna connector to produce the same amount of noise quieting in the receiver.

I want one of these but I need to sell some of my Hytera DMR radios first. :D
 
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Is this Digital Carrier-Operated Squelch option Motorola's name for Promiscuous Mode?
Is the network access code in Moto-speak aka Color Code in DMR-speak?
That looks an awful lot like they copied and pasted the squelch description from an Astro (i.e. P25) radio as those terms and functions don't apply to TRBO at all (but fit Astro). I'll bet it's just barely more than a rough draft that they submitted to the FCC for approval.
 
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While I won't be buying one, I predict that the company I work for at my day job will buy a huge number of these for supervisors. Very neat concept.
 

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Now, I am curious about what the actual squelch functions will be, seeing previous posts. However, once again, I have received more and better info here than from my own Motorola salesman, who said Ion Trbo radios would be announced sometime "first quarter 2021" and I see it announced on Motorola solutions website yesterday. Well after seeing it here on RadioReference. Good job on those who found the FCC docs, manual and posted it here.
 
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