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Multi-Mode and Multi-Band Portables

Echo4Thirty

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They have been working on a lot of these BeOn issues with a local agency near me. They almost exclusively use BeOn and had heartburn over the way it was working. R20B helped a ton for them. I know one of their complaints was the lack of fast switching from IP to LMR.
 

MTS2000des

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Our school board tried BeON with donor radios strapped to a ViDA core. It was sloppy to manually switch back and forth. They bought N70s and never looked back. Though there have been a couple of radios with issues that are firmware related, they work well and seamlessly roam between LTE, the school's enterprise WiFi, and LMR. No user intervention required.
 

KE4ZNR

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Our school board tried BeON with donor radios strapped to a ViDA core. It was sloppy to manually switch back and forth. They bought N70s and never looked back. Though there have been a couple of radios with issues that are firmware related, they work well and seamlessly roam between LTE, the school's enterprise WiFi, and LMR. No user intervention required.

Our Smartconnect switches seamlessly between LMR/WiFi/LTE (in that order). Now that we have had it for awhile we can't imagine not having it. It is worth the investment for when you are out of LMR coverage area.
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Note: I forced my radio into SmartConnect mode by removing antenna for the above pic.
Since we are still in the early stages of using SC we don't have a lot of registered users yet.
 

nikronzo

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In another 5-8 years this will be perfected. Right now as it stands, there is about an 8 second lag time of no communications when it switches back and forth. It will solve A LOT of problems, just not perfect yet.
The current code base requires 30 seconds of -126dBm or worse RSSI and CC Scan for a LTE/WiFi BeON roam to occur at which case you have wait for the CCM to power on which can take another 15 seconds or if you have FW19+ you can set it to always power on (which wastes a lot of battery) and it still takes at least 5-10 seconds for VIDA registration and then Profile provision to occur. So in total a user is looking at 35-40+ seconds for a complete broadband cutover on a XL radio. And that is assuming that the radio does not re-acquire the CC and restart the 30 second timer.
Smartconnect has 100% the leg up on registration and failover over BeON, we shall see what they change when XL-Connect comes out as the next iteration of Harris broadband.

Back on the subject of Multi-Band Multi-Protocol Radios, the tait radios cannot do multi-mode without "switching" modes so as to say you cant scan DMR and P25 and use them both quickly. The VP8000 seems to be the king of the castle right now when it comes to working across bands and protocols as it stands right now.

As many know there is development in the works for possible multi-mode support on the Motorola P25 platform but when and if we see it is still a big question. Not to mention the cost associated with it if it does matriculate.
 
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I can see a standard coming for least cost routing and most urgent traffic routing options. The radio will scan or beacon from wifi / cell / repeater
sites for the best choice based on traffic type. Maybe I should patent this before posting.
 
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