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What would be nice would be the ability to upgrade the fw when improvements are developed, like Motorola, Hytera, & other radios offer. Now when these companies make improvements, you have to buy their updated radio.
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Mystery new "game changer" coming in 2015 from Baofeng
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Yeah, upgradeable firmware would make the radios better. It would open the door for third party firmware too. However, I think it would cut into Baofeng's overall profits due to the increased component cost (?) and the ability of the end user to solve firmware issues/upgrade without purchasing another radio. Then again, I could be wrong. If I could pick just one thing for Baofeng to change, it would be to have upgradeable firmware. Hand in hand, it would have to have a rock solid boot loader so we wouldn't have a sea of permanently bricked Baofengs.
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Complete with a full suite of flashy lights to get the Whackers on board.
The Digital voice guys are saying the DVSI patent on the D-Star codec expires the week after Hamvention. It is not a far strech to say they incorporate multiple digital modes in one box.
The "Game changing" event is likely an exaggeration. Those Chinese folks have been known to over-hype new products.
Then.. add decimal places to the price as bells and whistles are added. Some of those Chinese rigs are creeping their way up in price to where they aren't as comptitive with the big 3.
The D-STAR CODEC is owned by JARL, not DVSI.
I agree with this. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Baofeng fan, but there is a limit as to how much I would pay for one, no matter how many features it had. If they are in the $200 range, forget it.
TennFordTN
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At least their Facebook post wasn't in a god awful version of Chinese and broken English like all of their manuals and advertising
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I asked for a cigar lighter years ago.
Don't confuse Baofeng with Baofeng Tech. They are not the same.
Baofeng is a Chinese company that manufactures two-way radios
Baofeng Tech is a USA company that sells radios manufactured by Baofeng
It was Baofeng Tech that made the announcement, not Baofeng
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MDC1200 actually would be a welcome feature.
I would love to know who is spreading this patently false story; D-STAR uses a version of the DVSI AMBE vocoder that Icom, not the JARL, has LICENSED FROM DVSI, just like most of the other commercially developed digital voice modes have.
"The only manufacturer to offer D-STAR compatible radios is Icom. As of February 1, 2013, no other amateur radio manufacturer supports D-STAR, which requires a proprietary AMBE Codec owned by Digital Voice Systems, Inc."
Quoted from the Wikipedia article. I'm not sure why AE5PL got it wrong, but that doesn't change the fact that DVSI holds the patents on all versions of the AMBE vocoder, not the JARL. I can even find links to the DVSI site, if you want them.
Quoted from the Wikipedia article. I'm not sure why AE5PL got it wrong, but that doesn't change the fact that DVSI holds the patents on all versions of the AMBE vocoder, not the JARL. I can even find links to the DVSI site, if you want them.
FrankNY
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I'm not sure that AE5PL got it wrong.
On the first page of the above-referenced PDF file, he wrote "The voice codec (vocoder) used for digital voice (DV) is the proprietary AMBE algorithm developed by the same company that owns the P25 voice algorithm.".
This is followed in a small print with "(Japan Amateur Radio League, Inc., 2005)".
I think that that was simply his way of saying that the preceding text was quoted from some document published in the year 2005 by the Japan Amateur Radio League, Inc. He was not saying that the vocoder was developed by the JARL.
That's my interpretation and I'm sticking to it.
On the first page of the above-referenced PDF file, he wrote "The voice codec (vocoder) used for digital voice (DV) is the proprietary AMBE algorithm developed by the same company that owns the P25 voice algorithm.".
This is followed in a small print with "(Japan Amateur Radio League, Inc., 2005)".
I think that that was simply his way of saying that the preceding text was quoted from some document published in the year 2005 by the Japan Amateur Radio League, Inc. He was not saying that the vocoder was developed by the JARL.
That's my interpretation and I'm sticking to it.
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chipjumper
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How about they sell a radio that isn't a pile of crap. All of their stuff is rubbish. Receive is terrible. Those radios belong in a dumpster. I don't get this prepper mania with the Baofengs especially when HT1000's sell for $15-40.
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exkalibur
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You can get an HT1000 for $30, but then you have to deal with the battery and programming.
A Baofeng is a good radio that you don't need to care about. That is, if it breaks or you loose it, who cares.
They're good radios for people who would otherwise never get into the hobby.
I'd far rather hack up a Baofeng to build up an IRLP node than something that cost ten times as much. Sure, they have issues, but they work for the job.
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