Natural Resources Police - AACo / VHF

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On Sunday late morning there was an alert put out for an overturned jetski in the Stony Creek area off the Patapsco. BaltCity Rescue Boat 1, AACO Fireboat 13 and a number of ground units from stations 11 and 13 responded, along with DNR.

Nothing was ultimately found and all units were placed available, but I continue to find it interesting that when these events happen and DNR responds, that the DNR base, wherever it is, monitors the fire frequencies and continously passes information heard to the responding DNR units.

Baltimore City and Anne Arrundel County on scene commanders on the other hand are always trying to get their water units to hail DNR water units (or USCG) to find out what is going on. DNR units invariably hardly ever respond as their only common is VHF marine, and they don't seem to monitor all the time.

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Yea, seems weird that the BC doesn't have a marine radio in their SUVs, particularly since the county has five hundred miles of shoreline. They also should have binoculars - I heard a chief asking an engine company for theirs yesterday. The USCG should also be monitoring the respective county and DNR frequencies, but don't. They really need experienced civilian career staff in sector command centers who know the region, and don't leave just when they become familiar with the area.
 

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Here's a first for me: just heard a NRP officer call out on a traffic stop on MD 648 and MD 10. Immediately asked for MSP assistance.
 

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Here's a first for me: just heard a NRP officer call out on a traffic stop on MD 648 and MD 10. Immediately asked for MSP assistance.
Yep. Heard that one too. Not a first for me, but it is rare. Whoever he stopped must have really needed stopped. They don't usually bother with traffic stops.

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Since I am out of the area during the water related incident on Sunday, did Fire Alarm put up the patch to the marine frequencies on another talkgroup? That seems to help but sometimes Fire Alarm doesn't always know how to put it up.

There really needs to be a coordination between local, state, and federal resources to better handle communication during these water related incidents.

Whenever there is an incident at the bay bridge involving water, it is always chaos. Anne Arundel operates on their talkgroup, Queen Anne operates on their system and sometimes uses Anne Arundel, MDTAP personnel/boat use FiRST, DNR uses theirs, USCG uses marine frequencies, and then you have MSP Helo's coming in trying to determine what system to use.

Maybe in the future with the buildout of FiRST, there can be coordination and patching into systems/talkgroups to better handle communications. We can hope but doubtful it will ever happen.
 

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Fire Alarm did not put up a marine patch on Sunday. It was mainly an AACO event with BaltCity Rescue Boat 1 added on Echo. Because DNR base was monitoring AACO, when units went available, DNR immediately reported this to their enroute units.

The last Bay Bridge incident that I heard was exactly as you describe. Sitting here with a scanner (3 or 4 in this case) I was more informed than any one of the agencies involved.

Listened to 17 Chief directing MSP helo on Queen Anne Tac3 while the incident was formally on AA Echo.

MDTAP was running their big maintenance boat, AA and QA both had boats out along with DNR and nobody was talking to each other. The only coordination was that chief 17 and a MDTAP unit were standing face to face on the bridge.

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And this is why, when all else fails and systems are incompatible, it is a very good idea to have a specialized patrol unit properly equipped with the right commo tools for such a situation...
 

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Notice tonight Maryland DNR freq 159.450 PL114.8 sounds encrypted up here in Northeast.
Fairly active at 10:30pm local so maybe something going on.
First time hearing encrypted like this.Not digital sounding,just old fashioned VHF encrypted with same PL.
10:50PM MSP Syscom Chopper dispatch active on 44.740 PL 110.9 reports still one missing in the water to Trooper 1.
Assume a boating accident in upper Susquehanna. Mentions Cecil (Port Deposit) side and Harford County side of river.
 
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Notice tonight Maryland DNR freq 159.450 PL114.8 sounds encrypted up here in Northeast.
Fairly active at 10:30pm local so maybe something going on.
First time hearing encrypted like this.Not digital sounding,just old fashioned VHF encrypted with same PL.
10:50PM MSP Syscom Chopper dispatch active on 44.740 PL 110.9 reports still one missing in the water to Trooper 1.
Assume a boating accident in upper Susquehanna. Mentions Cecil (Port Deposit) side and Harford County side of river.

I thought I read somewhere on RR that DNR was going fully encrypted. Is that just on the FiRST system?
I have never programmed the other freqs. Sounds like I am missing something!
 

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I thought I read somewhere on RR that DNR was going fully encrypted. Is that just on the FiRST system?
I have never programmed the other freqs. Sounds like I am missing something!

All activity of on the Lower Eastern Shore (not sure how much North but most of the shore) is on FiRST 700mhz and all their communication is encrypted.

Units are still using the conventional system while operating in the Central and Western Maryland. All operations are in the clear on those frequencies.

Not sure why that frequency was encrypted, maybe their was a patch into an encrypted frequency/talkgroup?
 

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They did a couple nice rescues down at Sandy Point the night the big thunderstorms hit, along with a couple state lifeguards.

Pulled about 5 people out of the water involving people off jetskis, people out beyond normal swim area, and did an emergency tow of another boatload of people in a dead motorboat right as the storm was hitting. They even put up a page about it on the DNR website.

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Just a note: I built a center fed dipole antenna as described elsewhere on this site, and now I can receive Solley with 5 bars (as well as Dundalk.) Previously I could not receive these NRP channels at all. The antenna is leaning up against a wall in my dining room well within the house. Works well.
 

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Good deal. Just the right time of the year too. Very active for the next 5-6 months. Hope they don't hurry up to get on FiRST like the eastern shore. I like listening to them.

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One frustrating thing about NRP that's been bugging me- I have never ever been able to hear a single NRP transmission on the OC/WC repeaters they're licensed for. Someone said a little while ago that they're still active, simulcasting the FiRST nets. However, I'm still at a loss. Anyone know what's actually active around here?

Sorry, not trying to hijack this. Carry on ;)

I was down at Assateague yesterday and noticed...

151.32500 114.8 PL Eastern & Western Region Park Operations - It was very active through the afternoon.

159.45000 114.8 PL Forest & Park Service - Talk-Around - DNR Communication was calling for an Assateague Park Ranger to assist with an issue at a Campsite. Rangers also called on/off duty on that frequency.

156.1875 432 DPL MC Klej Grange (Worcester County) - Sounded like encrypted activity (maybe a patch into FiRST?)
 
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