Need help identifying repeater on 145.580

[railtrailbiker]

Trying to ID repeater on 145.580 MHz near Essex County. PL being used is 100.0 Hz.

Need input frequency, call sign, and location if someone can determine.

Someone on that repeater has a bad transmitter causing interference to an OEM affiliated UHF, yes UHF, ham repeater.

Thanks for any help. Post info here.

 

[SCPD]

If the repeater is coordinated you could try looking it up in an ARRL repeater directory. You could also try contacting the area amateur repeater coordinating body for your area.

Does it have a CW Id or voice Id? Also, the typical repeater offset in the two meter band is plus or minus 600khz. It may be different for your area.

 

[Mick]

I started to research this; let me know if your "Essex County" is the one in MA, NJ, NY, VT, or VA. Thanks, Mick

Trying to ID repeater on 145.580 MHz near Essex County. PL being used is 100.0 Hz.

Need input frequency, call sign, and location if someone can determine.
Someone on that repeater has a bad transmitter causing interference to an OEM affiliated UHF, yes UHF, ham repeater.
Thanks for any help. Post info here.

 

[KR4BD]

:shock: :?: :?: 145.58 is not authorized for repeater use by the FCC (for either input or output repeater frequencies). The spectrum between 145.5 to 146.0 is primarily to be used for amateur satellite service and other simplex (non-repeater) use. I am sure no repeater co-ordinator would allow a repeater on that frequency....unless he was not familiar with FCC rules. :?: :?: :shock:

 

[railtrailbiker]

The repeater is located near Essex County, NJ and does not appear in any database, nor does it come up on any Google searches.

I was hoping to find someone nearby with a scanner who could listen for a bit. I can hear it, but just can't figure out the input frequency and ID.

Any help from local listeners would be appreciated.

Thanks.

 

[KR4BD]

By FCC rule, amateur repeaters must identify every 10 minutes. Can you copy the ID if it is in morse code? If it is not IDing, I would be thinking....bootlegger.

 

[fineshot1]

145.580Mhz

This part of the ham spectrum is usually used for Sat Comms, NASA simplex rebroadcasts and sometimes also for IRLP node simplex links. I looked on the IRLP web site and did not find any listings for that freq in the surrounding area but sometimes the IRLP web site is not up to date. It might be a local ham in the area that is using it for IRLP and is not coordinated.......fineshot1

 

[railtrailbiker]

The repeater is not IDing in either Morse Code or voice.

Again, if there's anyone in the area with a scanner that can give a listen we'd appreciate any info you could pass along. Knowing the input frequency would be most helpful to us.

Thanks.

 

[mdulrich]

Knowing the input frequency would be most helpful to us.

They probably aren't using a standard amateur repeater split, but try 144.980 or 146.180.

Mike

 

[railtrailbiker]

They probably aren't using a standard amateur repeater split, but try 144.980 or 146.180.

They are using neither. Again, if there's anyone nearby with a scanner, please give a listen.

Thanks.

 

[KR4BD]

I say again, this is NOT a legal place in the two-meter ham band for a repeater to be operating (per FCC rules). It is probably a bootlegger (illegal operation). Do any of the users give callsigns? Callsigns are required to be given at least every 10 minutes by all users and the repeater, itself. These callsigns CAN be in morse code or in voice. Have you copied any of the callsigns by the users?

In recent years, the FCC has busted several taxi companies, pizza delivery joints, etc., in the NYC area who are illegally setting up repeaters in the ham bands. If you hear anything that sounds like a dispatch service or delivery service, it is ILLEGAL. Business communications is not allowed on ham frequencies.

 

[railtrailbiker]

We are well aware of the rules.

We are asking for assistance in locating the offending station.

If you're in the area and have a scanner, please let us know if you hear anything that could help us find the offending operation.

Thanks.

 

[Tech792]

If its a bad transmitter, maybe its spuring an image on 145. MHZ

 

[codethree]

Trying to ID repeater on 145.580 MHz near Essex County. PL being used is 100.0 Hz.

Need input frequency, call sign, and location if someone can determine.

Someone on that repeater has a bad transmitter causing interference to an OEM affiliated UHF, yes UHF, ham repeater.

Thanks for any help. Post info here.

Here is the list of NJ HAM repeaters at this link.....
http://www.artscipub.com/repeaters/states/New-Jersey.asp
and NY ham repeaters at this link.....
http://www.artscipub.com/repeaters/states/New-York.asp
But I must ask this NEW member,If it IS a ham uhf repeater and
OEM is using it and receiving interference from a VHF source, I would think these OEM members would have the apttitude to know how to triangulate an offending intruders signal AND/OR have the contacts in the ham community of how to perform this task & notify the FCC field office on this matter.I have seen this type of post before on other local scanner boards,this asking of scanner monitors to try and help find a phantom signal to no avail.It usually turns out to be someone trolling as a prank to stir things up ! :roll:
APW

 

[railtrailbiker]

Yes, I am a licensed ham and yes, the FCC field office has been notified in writing.

 

[codethree]

Yes, I am a licensed ham and yes, the FCC field office has been notified in writing.

OK ~ TERRIFIC!
:lol:
:roll:
APW

 

[kb2vxa]

Hi railtrailhambiker and readers,

The frequency lies in the miscellaneous modes and experimental sub-band that has unfortunately been taken over by packet to Internet gateways. It used to be popular for simplex and simplex repeaters so it's possible one may still be around. In any case in no way should a full duplex repeater be on that frequency.

You make no mention of anything you have heard which may hold a clue and worse, "near Essex County" covers the entire NY/NNJ metro area. Are you SURE it's a repeater and not a remote base that often is mistaken for a repeater? What about an IRLP node, they sound like repeaters too. More info is needed for me at least, Telegraph Hill casts a shadow for me in that area, can't hear anything from there in Ocean County.

73 de Warren
Amateur Radio KB2VXA