Need some info on my rs pro-2052...

[kmacka]

I recently purchased my second 2052 because I want to get into Milair comms. Now I hear from reading through the forums that the 2052 is a pretty good milair scanner, but it won't work for some ranges. I'm not a total pro just yet, so stick with me while I explain what I mean. I hear some say that the scanner won't pick up am transmissions in certain ranges. I just want to know what to program into my scanner that I will be able to pick up. I currently am compiling a list to enter into my scanner and will include norad, neads, dc ang, pa ang, nj ang, uhf ny center artcc freqs, among various other national mil air freqs.

Any help on this topic would be greatly appreciated along with any freq's that I may have forgot or any other interesting mil air freqs.

Also what other scanners are available that will pick up milair comms that the 2052 won't? BC780XLT??

 

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[ka3jjz]

Google, bah! Check the Wiki - it has information on the 2052...

http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Pro-2052

Unfortunately there's one limitation the 2052 has - I don't believe it will handle the 138-144 mhz band in AM mode. It is otherwise a good UHF milair (225-380 mhz) scanner. The 780 will do this easily. The BC785, 796, 996, 898 and the BCT15 (in the base/mobile category) will all handle this as well (in the Uniden family). The GRE/RS PRO-2055 also covers both the 225 and 138 mhz bands.

From your list of targets, I am assuming you are in the DC area, and it sounds like you've been reading the milair sticky on the Maryland forum. You might want to keep our master Wiki page handy, as it has lots of information for our area...

http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Delmarva_Milcom_Monitoring

TinEar - who has been having some connection problems of late - has dumped the contents of some of his dozen or so milair scanners on the thread some time ago - I captured all of that in a text file.

The next thing to handle is the antenna. The little stick you get with these models won't accomplish much of anything - a discone fed with good coax mounted up in the air is your best bet (there are other antennas, too, such as the ScanTenna and NilJon). As long as you're not too close to an urban area, many folks use a small preamp as well as signals can be weak in comparison to your standard public safety stuff.

You're probably better off using software to program the 1000 channels the 2052 has available. Scan Control is generally considered to be the champ here. I can rather easily port Tin's data into SC if you decide to purchase it; if not, I can send you the entire text file. Send me a note at ka3jjz@netscape.com if you want it.

73s Mike

 

[kmacka]

Thanks for the info....I currently live in Northeast Pennsylvania, the reason I picked those freq's was because they are whats closest to me.

The rs 2052 won't handle 138-144 mhz AM. Now, that being said, what won't I be able to hear while I listen on my 2052. Mil air? Mil. ground comms?....

I currently do use Scan Control to program my scanner. I also have a scantenna mounted on top of my house, it works fine so far.

 

[kmacka]

ka I also sent you an email requesting the text file, thanks

 

[iMONITOR]

Ignor...I got confused!

 

[kmacka]

Lol one more question I swear. I had read somewhere that most mil air comms are transmitted through the UHF ARTCC frequencies. Is that true? If so is it worth putting the VHF and UHF or just basically the UHF frequencies. I really don't want to continually hearing commercial comms, thus possibly blocking out a milair comm. What would you recommend.

 

[iMONITOR]

Lol one more question I swear. I had read somewhere that most mil air comms are transmitted through the UHF ARTCC frequencies. Is that true? If so is it worth putting the VHF and UHF or just basically the UHF frequencies. I really don't want to continually hearing commercial comms, thus possibly blocking out a milair comm. What would you recommend.

Check the MilAir WiKi on RR. It's better than re-typing all the freqs. It's a great resource.

 

[kmacka]

Check the MilAir WiKi on RR. It's better than re-typing all the freqs. It's a great resource.

I have all the artcc freqs for New York Center and Boston Center....I just want to know if it's worth using all the vhf/uhf or just the Uhf because I heard that there is where most milair comms would be heard.

 

[ka3jjz]

kmacka - the 138-144 mhz band is usually where you will find the various Air National Guard air-air comms. NORAD (Huntress is the callsign here on this part of the East Coast) has also been heard on a couple of occasions in this band - particularly, in the DC area at least, 139.7. The NJ, DC and PA ANG are heavy users of this band.

Yes, the UHF stuff is very plentiful, and a good part of the milair listening can be done there, but without that 138 mhz band, you're not listening to everything you might be able to hear. 73s Mike

 

[cookiend15]

PRO-2052 Scanner

I just checked the following link www.pro2052.com/pro2052_manual61170.pdf and according to the owners manual on this link it says you PRO-2052 scanner can receive these bands. 108-136.975 Aircraft and also 225-400 UHF Aircraft. I would say that you should have no problem hearing Mil-Air comms within these 2 primary ranges.

I hope that this helps you out

Chris

 

[N4JNW]

I hope you have better luck with a 2052 than I did.

I bought one, and it was junk. Recpetion was terrible. Never tried it on MilAir, but I wasn't satisfied at all with the Civillian aircraft band.

Returned it for a 2051... HUGE improvement.

 

[iMONITOR]

I just checked the following link www.pro2052.com/pro2052_manual61170.pdf and according to the owners manual on this link it says you PRO-2052 scanner can receive these bands. 108-136.975 Aircraft and also 225-400 UHF Aircraft. I would say that you should have no problem hearing Mil-Air comms within these 2 primary ranges.

I hope that this helps you out

Chris

The VHF MilAir is normally in the 138-144MHz range. The 108-136MHz range is normally used for commercial, and private aircraft.

 

[cookiend15]

The VHF MilAir is normally in the 138-144MHz range. The 108-136MHz range is normally used for commercial, and private aircraft.

Yes thank you for telling me what I already knew. I was in the Military and I know all about there VHF and UHF communications thank you very much

Chris

 

[iMONITOR]

Yes thank you for telling me what I already knew. I was in the Military and I know all about there VHF and UHF communications thank you very much

Chris

"108-136.975 Aircraft and also 225-400 UHF Aircraft. I would say that you should have no problem hearing Mil-Air comms within these 2 primary ranges."

Then why did you make the above statement? Mil-Air comms within 108-136.975?

 

[cookiend15]

"108-136.975 Aircraft and also 225-400 UHF Aircraft. I would say that you should have no problem hearing Mil-Air comms within these 2 primary ranges."

Then why did you make the above statement? Mil-Air comms within 108-136.975?

Because being as well versed in scanning as you seem to be you should already know that while yes the 108-136.975 mhz range is the primary range for civilian air it is also at times used by the military aircraft. I have heard alot of air refueling aircraft use civilian ARTCC frequencies as well as military ARTCC frequencies. Same thing goes with frequencies at airports, even though there are civilian and military tower and approach / departure frequencies at most major airports does not always mean that the incoming or outgoing military aircraft are only going to use the military tower and approach / departure frequencies, I have heard them on both military and civilian, so for you to basically say that it is a waste of time to monitor the 108-136.975 airband for military air is wrong I have heard military aircraft talking on civilian airband frequencies.

That is why I made my statement. I'am on here for fun and to try and help fellow scanners out as best I can, I'am not trying to steer them in the wrong direction. I made my statement because I did not want another fellow scanner trying to monitor military to not monitor at all the 108-136.975 range and miss anything that might be going on there.

Chris

 

[iMONITOR]

Because being as well versed in scanning as you seem to be you should already know that while yes the 108-136.975 mhz range is the primary range for civilian air it is also at times used by the military aircraft. I have heard alot of air refueling aircraft use civilian ARTCC frequencies as well as military ARTCC frequencies. Same thing goes with frequencies at airports, even though there are civilian and military tower and approach / departure frequencies at most major airports does not always mean that the incoming or outgoing military aircraft are only going to use the military tower and approach / departure frequencies, I have heard them on both military and civilian, so for you to basically say that it is a waste of time to monitor the 108-136.975 airband for military air is wrong I have heard military aircraft talking on civilian airband frequencies.

That is why I made my statement. I'am on here for fun and to try and help fellow scanners out as best I can, I'am not trying to steer them in the wrong direction. I made my statement because I did not want another fellow scanner trying to monitor military to not monitor at all the 108-136.975 range and miss anything that might be going on there.

Chris

I had just thought you made a mistake, thats all. Now I understand what was meant, and I wasn't trying to offend you, just clarify things. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

[cookiend15]

I had just thought you made a mistake, thats all. Now I understand what was meant, and I wasn't trying to offend you, just clarify things. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

No problem. I could have worded myself a bit better as well and said something like this the 225-400 MHZ range is the primary range for Mil-Air, and you might also be able to catch some Mil-Air comms in the 108 - 136.975 Civilian Air-Band. I'am not out here trying to cause any problems I just want to come on this website to have fun and learn more about scanning and help out when I can. Also for the fellow scanner that is trying to listen to Mil-Air comms, I have heard Mil-Air on the Low-Band FM mode frequencies such as I have heard the A-10 Thunderbolts from Bradley In Conn use 34.150 FM mode for plane-to-plane comms so you might also want to check out the Low-Band range in the FM mode.

Sorry for any problems and lets all get back to scanning, and have some fun.

Chris

 

[markm1245]

AM mod

Has anyone tried the am mod and how did it work?
Your opinions?

 

[jimlawrence]

Speaking of the "civilian" VHF ATC frequency range, I've caught military aircraft working a couple of freqs in that range in the past. I could be wrong but I've read posts over the past couple of years that indicate that there's more than one CP in the eastern US that has been reported using 125.125 and I've also heard air-to-air comms on 135.125.