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wa8pyr

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Pricing was for Phase II capable APX 7/800 mobiles. The price only went up after the county mandated the Phase II purchases.

Look closely at the quote you received from Motorola the first time around. Was it for Phase II capable radios or did a line item in the quote specifically state "Add [option number] Phase II" making it a Phase II ready radio? I've found that unless you specify exactly what you need when you request a quote, /\/\ will play fast and loose semantically, especially if the price of a Phase II radio takes someone's breath away.
 

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... I've found that unless you specify exactly what you need when you request a quote, /\/\ will play fast and loose semantically...

This ^^^^^ is so true.

If you buy a APX portables today, ADP is *not* included by default.
You plan on buying the AES256 encryption option in the future, so you don't care if you have ADP or not, right?

Adding ADP when you purchase you APX costs you exactly nothing. That's right, it is a $0.00 adder to include it.
So what, you say? You will never use it, right? OK.

But when you go to add AES256 in the future, besides the expense of the new feature, you're going to have to send your APX portables to the depot to have the encryption installed because you didn't specifically ask for Q667.
 

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This ^^^^^ is so true.

If you buy a APX portables today, ADP is *not* included by default.
You plan on buying the AES256 encryption option in the future, so you don't care if you have ADP or not, right?

Actually the last several quotes I've received had single key AES256 included at no charge if you specified encryption, but not ADP. My understanding is that they were losing sales to other manufacturers who were including single key AES at no charge, so they got with the times.

Adding multi-key capability or other flavors of encryption is where they'll stick it to you.
 

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Actually the last several quotes I've received had single key AES256 included at no charge if you specified encryption, but not ADP. My understanding is that they were losing sales to other manufacturers who were including single key AES at no charge, so they got with the times.

Adding multi-key capability or other flavors of encryption is where they'll stick it to you.

That's good news.
 
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Radioman2001 is technically correct. You cannot listen to two discreet conversations at the same time. You can listen one then the other never at the same time
 
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