New Haven Fire Department

[CentracomGold]

As of today (11/21) Squad 1 from Whitney Station is now with call-sign Rescue 1 (same still & box area as Squad 1) and a new EMS unit was commissioned as Emergency 3 stationed out of Goffe St (Dixwell Station) with a response area roughly west of State St , north of Crown St extending to Woodbridge, & Hamden town lines. More or less covering the response areas of Engines 6, 15 & parts of 4. 8 & 9.

 

[CentracomGold]

(Above post corrected... no still area) As of today (11/21) Squad 1 from Whitney Station is now with call-sign Rescue 1 (no still area <no water capacity> & same response area as Squad 1 as well as heavy rescue citywide) and a new EMS unit (non-ambulance for the time being) was commissioned as Emergency 3 stationed out of Goffe St (Dixwell Station) with a response area roughly west of State St , north of Crown St extending to the West Haven, Woodbridge, & Hamden town lines. More or less covering the entire response areas of Engines 6, 15 & parts of Engines 4. 8 & 9.

 

[APX7500X2]

Asked about this last night when I was in the city, Squad 1 is now a reserve piece and the new Rescue 1 is finally in service (A huge truck)
From what I was told Squad 1 & 2 will be gone and R1 will take their place and they brought back Emergency 3 to take some of the stress of the other two E units and engines, they might be bringing back Emergency 4 also in the future, Ill have to listen how the Boxes go out now as SQ1 or 2 used to be 4th engine a lot on boxes, I wonder if they are still going to run 4 engines or is R1 going to take over that spot...Im sure someone will know

 

[CentracomGold]

Asked about this last night when I was in the city, Squad 1 is now a reserve piece and the new Rescue 1 is finally in service (A huge truck)
From what I was told Squad 1 & 2 will be gone and R1 will take their place and they brought back Emergency 3 to take some of the stress of the other two E units and engines, they might be bringing back Emergency 4 also in the future, Ill have to listen how the Boxes go out now as SQ1 or 2 used to be 4th engine a lot on boxes, I wonder if they are still going to run 4 engines or is R1 going to take over that spot...Im sure someone will know

Yes I also heard of Emergency 4 possibly going to Fountain St...out of 15's & Emergency 3 possibly relocating to HQ. I also heard Rescue 1 will be RIT on all boxes after they eliminate Squad 2. So far R1 is 4th do on all boxes in the east battalion (Everything East of Dixwell Ave) including where Squad 1 was 2nd or 3rd do on the box. When they had the 4 E-Units, E-1 was on Grand, E-2 was Ellsworth, E-3 was Woodward & E-4 was on Howard & it worked just fine back then. 2 & 3 were ALS & 1 & 4 were BLS

 

[izzyj4]

Yes I also heard of Emergency 4 possibly going to Fountain St...out of 15's & Emergency 3 possibly relocating to HQ. I also heard Rescue 1 will be RIT on all boxes after they eliminate Squad 2. So far R1 is 4th do on all boxes in the east battalion (Everything East of Dixwell Ave) including where Squad 1 was 2nd or 3rd do on the box. When they had the 4 E-Units, E-1 was on Grand, E-2 was Ellsworth, E-3 was Woodward & E-4 was on Howard & it worked just fine back then. 2 & 3 were ALS & 1 & 4 were BLS

There are only three Emergency Units running now E-1 is at Woodward Ave with Engine 5, E-2 is at Howard Ave with Engine 11 and Truck 2, and E-3 was activated at Ellsworth with Engine 9. Both Squad 1 and Squad 2 are now disbanded, they merged into Rescue 1, Emergency 3 and also the SOC. Squad 1 was running with the new Rescue 1 for a short time I guess before the full transition to the present operations from what I was told. As for Emergency 4, it would be nice to see it reactivated as they can justify the additional medic unit. However I don't know if they have the personnel to staff it.

Back when there were 4 Emergency Units, 3 of them were BLS E-1, E-2 & E-4 (C-MED 1-Alpha- 1, 2 & 4) and E-3 (5-Alpha-3) was ALS only. You were close with the assignments, I don't member exactly which unit was at which station, but they were located at Headquarters (Grand Ave), Ellsworth Ave, Whitney Ave and Howard Avenue. I was working at C-MED New Haven when Emergency 1, 2 & 4 were deactivated and E-3 was moved to Grand Avenue, and eventually re-designated Emergency 1. This is when NHFD began transitioning the Engine Co.'s to respond as the BLS first responders. While all 4 emergency units were active, the Engines would not respond to EMS calls out side of their district, with some exceptions (and problems). When NHFD realized the need for two medic units, they moved Emergency 1 over to Woodward Avenue and re-organized Emergency 2 out of Howard Avenue, this happened around 2002 roughly.

Also at this time is when they organized Squad 1 and Squad 2. Engine 8, originally the Pierce / Ford pumper running with the old International Tactical Unit 1 when needed, was outfitted with the original Pierce rescue pumper since they were the city-wide extrication unit (Truck 2 also has tools on it for I-95). When Squad 1 was organized, Engine 8 reverted back to a regular pumper, Squad 2 had the infamous FrankenSquad.

 

[Kitn1mcc]

that new rescue is a beast

 

[CentracomGold]

There are only three Emergency Units running now E-1 is at Woodward Ave with Engine 5, E-2 is at Howard Ave with Engine 11 and Truck 2, and E-3 was activated at Ellsworth with Engine 9. Both Squad 1 and Squad 2 are now disbanded, they merged into Rescue 1, Emergency 3 and also the SOC. Squad 1 was running with the new Rescue 1 for a short time I guess before the full transition to the present operations from what I was told. As for Emergency 4, it would be nice to see it reactivated as they can justify the additional medic unit. However I don't know if they have the personnel to staff it.

Back when there were 4 Emergency Units, 3 of them were BLS E-1, E-2 & E-4 (C-MED 1-Alpha- 1, 2 & 4) and E-3 (5-Alpha-3) was ALS only. You were close with the assignments, I don't member exactly which unit was at which station, but they were located at Headquarters (Grand Ave), Ellsworth Ave, Whitney Ave and Howard Avenue. I was working at C-MED New Haven when Emergency 1, 2 & 4 were deactivated and E-3 was moved to Grand Avenue, and eventually re-designated Emergency 1. This is when NHFD began transitioning the Engine Co.'s to respond as the BLS first responders. While all 4 emergency units were active, the Engines would not respond to EMS calls out side of their district, with some exceptions (and problems). When NHFD realized the need for two medic units, they moved Emergency 1 over to Woodward Avenue and re-organized Emergency 2 out of Howard Avenue, this happened around 2002 roughly.

Also at this time is when they organized Squad 1 and Squad 2. Engine 8, originally the Pierce / Ford pumper running with the old International Tactical Unit 1 when needed, was outfitted with the original Pierce rescue pumper since they were the city-wide extrication unit (Truck 2 also has tools on it for I-95). When Squad 1 was organized, Engine 8 reverted back to a regular pumper, Squad 2 had the infamous FrankenSquad.

Yes, I remember when only Engine 15 & 16 were "first responders" for EMS calls responding with a unit in their still districts. They commissioned Squad 1 & 2 & decommissioned E3 & E4 September 1, 2002 is when we needed to update all 417 box cards to reflect that.

 

[gofasters4]

New Haven Fire Dept - Rescue 1

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[izzyj4]

Yes, I remember when only Engine 15 & 16 were "first responders" for EMS calls responding with a unit in their still districts. They commissioned Squad 1 & 2 & decommissioned E3 & E4 September 1, 2002 is when we needed to update all 417 box cards to reflect that.

I remember a few times when an engine would clear up from a call on one of of their district and then get reassigned to an EMS run at the total opposite end of the district and the engine enroute would be cancelled. Those were some interesting times, not knocking the running rules at all, it was what it was.

Some of the runs and covers for EMS runs were interesting over the years after the Squads were organized and there was only one Emergency unit. And of course "1-Alpha-Truck 2" calling on the old 789-0123 line saying they were going to a third medical in The Hill. ANd of course telling them they were either getting an ambulance from Guilford, Branford, Bethany or Ansonia, who ever signed on first, lol. NH was sure busy around then!

Here's a question for you, is there a lot of activity on the two newer 800 Mhz frequencies designated Channel 3 & 4 in the database?

 

[CentracomGold]

I am sure John Gustafson loved hearing 1 Alpha Truck 2 calling on that number.... He came up with 1 Alpha 18 & 1 Alpha 19 for the Squads (1 & 2 respectively)...Because the original plans were different.... On most of the portables their channel 4 is channel 2 talk-around (F-G Direct). The main sets has the code plug programmed that reflects the RR Database but the portables still have channel 1 talk around on channel 3 position & the aforementioned channel 2 talk around on the 4 position. One time, Pudge (RIP) gave me a phone number that was area code 535 & I cannot remember the rest of the number that translated to 911 in the PsAp across the hall from you.

 

[leadjammer]

I remember a few times when an engine would clear up from a call on one of of their district and then get reassigned to an EMS run at the total opposite end of the district and the engine enroute would be cancelled. Those were some interesting times, not knocking the running rules at all, it was what it was.

Some of the runs and covers for EMS runs were interesting over the years after the Squads were organized and there was only one Emergency unit. And of course "1-Alpha-Truck 2" calling on the old 789-0123 line saying they were going to a third medical in The Hill. ANd of course telling them they were either getting an ambulance from Guilford, Branford, Bethany or Ansonia, who ever signed on first, lol. NH was sure busy around then!

Here's a question for you, is there a lot of activity on the two newer 800 Mhz frequencies designated Channel 3 & 4 in the database?

Are all the guys assigned to Squads 1 and 2 working on Rescue 1? Seems like too many guys for one truck. Also during the Yale/ Harvard game NHFD was using 853.4125 Special Hazards Team Channel as their command channel. It was very active.

 

[CentracomGold]

Not sure about personnel. It seems like all boxes are now 3 & 2. Now there are 3 Engines & 2 Trucks & the Rescue on every box with an SOC-1 responding with Truck 1. Not sure if there is(or will be) any additional SOC (East/ West etc)

 

[leadjammer]

What is an SOC?

 

[doctordialtone]

What is an SOC?

"Standards of Cover"

"Standards of Cover evaluated response resources, deployment strategies, operational elements, and overall community risks. It established response time targets and goals as well as standards for measuring the effectiveness of resources within the District and the deployment of those resources. It follows the recommended outline in the Center for Public Safety Excellence, Community Risk Assessment: Standards of Cover 6th Edition."

 

[leadjammer]

Thanks for that. I was thinking of something totally different.

 

[leadjammer]

Not sure about personnel. It seems like all boxes are now 3 & 2. Now there are 3 Engines & 2 Trucks & the Rescue on every box with an SOC-1 responding with Truck 1. Not sure if there is(or will be) any additional SOC (East/ West etc)

I know Squads 1 and 2 were also pumpers. Does Rescue 1 have any pumping capabilities. Doesn't look like it from the photos I've seen. I can only imagine what this vehicle cost the city.

 

[doctordialtone]

Does Rescue 1 have any pumping capabilities.

 

[leadjammer]

I saw that. Looked like air hose to me.

 

[doctordialtone]

Looked like air hose to me.

Yeah. I don't really know.

 

[leadjammer]

I don't think it pumps or carries a water supply. I don't see a place for ladders either but it does have an outboard motor. Not sure I understand why New Haven would need this million dollar vehicle in a city where we don't have a lot heavy rescue type incidents like New York City might have. I know they run these in NYC or other very large cities but maybe it serves a another purpose of some sort in certain situations. Not sure why it would need to respond to every box alarm.