New in the box APX eBay sale.

[marcotor]

Interesting eBay Auction: NEW IN THE FACTORY BOX MOTOROLA APX 8000XE / TAGS / DES & AES256 / PUBLIC SAFETY | eBay

Only $7500! But the radio has an FM label on the housing, and this interesting "Repaired" UL label on the rear

 

[ThreatLevelMidnight]

About 99% sure that's "Depot Man"

 

[MTS2000des]

All the "repaired" depot label means just that: the radio was serviced at a UL certified depot and it is required per the UL FM program to label any serviced product who's housing has been opened/repaired/replaced to indicate it on service records. UL FM is all about liability and accountability.

The serial number is visible in the QR code and barcode (they didn't bother to block those) and one can get the real history if they have access on their MyView page or contacting their MSI rep.

$7500 is a rape off. I've paid less for that for 8000XEs from MSI through our agency. 100 percent legit with 3 year SFS too.

 

[chrismol1]

All the "repaired" depot label means just that: the radio was serviced at a UL certified depot and it is required per the UL FM program to label any serviced product who's housing has been opened/repaired/replaced to indicate it on service records. UL FM is all about liability and accountability.

The serial number is visible in the QR code and barcode (they didn't bother to block those) and one can get the real history if they have access on their MyView page or contacting their MSI rep.

$7500 is a rape off. I've paid less for that for 8000XEs from MSI through our agency. 100 percent legit with 3 year SFS too.

That's cool and all but this radio has FDNY Emergency Rx/Tx Tone Set

 

[mbnv992]

I’ve seen apx8000’s / HXE radios with both a UL side sticker that’s white print on a black backround and some that are printed in black on a grey backround. What’s the difference ? One sticker is newer than the other ?

 

[RadioCrazy]

This is a bogus flash code, Motorola would never put this flash code in a APX8000 let alone put this flash on a tag, the software flash with AES-256 and the DES-OFB is for radios without a mace, like a APX900 so this is a phony flash! Also the tag don’t look right, some of the fronts look off, not by a lot but off if you know what to look for, also FDNY tone set is only for FDNY, that alone tips off the bogus flash, let alone the whoa out flash, look close people and learn!!!!

 

[ResQguy]

All the "repaired" depot label means just that: the radio was serviced at a UL certified depot and it is required per the UL FM program to label any serviced product who's housing has been opened/repaired/replaced to indicate it on service records. UL FM is all about liability and accountability.

The serial number is visible in the QR code and barcode (they didn't bother to block those) and one can get the real history if they have access on their MyView page or contacting their MSI rep.

$7500 is a rape off. I've paid less for that for 8000XEs from MSI through our agency. 100 percent legit with 3 year SFS too.

Underwriters Laboratories and Factory Mutual are different organizations. Those two labels should not be on the same radio. Furthermore, there is no such thing as a TIA4950 DIV1 APX8000. This is exactly why the APX8000H exists. And dat flashcode doe... This radio sits on a throne of lies.

 

[kinglou0]

Fools and their money are quickly parted especially when it is going on a credit card.

 

[RadioCrazy]

This is the same guy who was offering firmware and flash code upgrades and downgrades. Not to long ago

 

[12dbsinad]

Some Motorola whacker fanboy I'm sure will buy this

 

[northstarfire0693]

I seen that listed. It's fake as hell. I would not spend my money on it. The problem with APX radios on Ebay, is 98% no tags and have been whored out and hacked. The good old days of finding a good used or new M on Ebay are long gone. I'll stick KW or Harris.

 

[MTS2000des]

Where is Pat Harrington? That auction would have been pulled and seller banned for VERO violation, and probably getting nasty demand letters certified mail from Schaumburg. It isn't 2005 anymore and MSI doesn't apparently care.

 

[RidingDownUnder]

I seen that listed. It's fake as hell. I would not spend my money on it. The problem with APX radios on Ebay, is 98% no tags and have been whored out and hacked. The good old days of finding a good used or new M on Ebay are long gone. I'll stick KW or Harris.

Give the seller a break. His go 💯% feedback. So it must be a great buy and reliable seller. NOT!

 

[RidingDownUnder]

Someone please tell me how much would you pay for the same model/options from a M dealer. Brandnew.

 

[mbnv992]

Someone please tell me how much would you pay for the same model/options from a M dealer. Brandnew.

Not on a government contract ? An APX8000 with all bands enabled, FPP, etc etc would probably push you close to, if not over $8,000.

The old saying, model number matches the price still remains. XTS5000 back in the day for a loaded model 3 was close to 5 boxes of ziti.

 

[AM909]

The one pic of the tag looks like the SN starts "581CU". Year code "U" is 2018, inconsistent with the "born" date of 2021 shown. Maybe it was "born again" in 2021.

The pic of the radio in box has a plastic film protector with a blue pull-tab at the upper right over the front display. In two other pics of the front display, the protector is missing. I suppose they could have removed it for photographing, but would you disturb a pristine NIB radio just to show it turns on (there really should be no doubt if it's NIB). I think the pics may not all be of the same radio.

How do these people end up with 100% feedback? Do they just pay people off if they want to squawk?

 

[prcguy]

Question for those who actually know both the Motorola APX line and the Harris Unity. What might an APX8000 do that an XG-100P can't? Or if the APX is actually superior, what percentage might an XG-100P be of an APX8000? 50%? 75%? 99%? I know the APX is newer technology and smaller, that's a given, but what about the bottom line performance, function and features?

I ask because a used APX8000 that is not stolen seems to fetch $2500 on the lowest end to insane on the high end. A used XG-100P can run $400 to $1500 depending on features. Big difference in price for what looks like somewhat similar features to me.

 

[motorcoachdoug]

Well with the Harris unit , you can park it on a TG that you want to monitor unlike the moto which has to keep scanning unless you program it to park on that TG but thats it you can not do that on the fly unlike the Harris. Also the Harris unit is soooooo much easier to program for NAS as you only have to check and or uncheck 3 boxes to keep from affiliating. The moto according to some people is less of a brick then harris and it is a little bit more rugged and able to take punishment then harris but in my book the harris is better for NAS then moto. Of course thos on ebay for around $400 and or $500 thos are for parts only and some like the one with the cracked screen you are just SOL as you can not get that part to replace at all. The one running from $1100 and up have p2 which is what you need unless you want to pay about $250 to get a new feature string with P2 in it. I have been using an xg100p now for about 2yrs as my goto portable and so far not really had any trouble. Yes the moto might be smaller and or "tac cool looking" but in my book what counts is the preformace of the radio. The moto might withstand rain better but then who is going to be outside in the rain unless it is a rescue and or fire incident to begin with. In the end it all boils down to is what kind of radio do you prefer?

 

[APX7500X2]

This is a bogus flash code, Motorola would never put this flash code in a APX8000 let alone put this flash on a tag, the software flash with AES-256 and the DES-OFB is for radios without a mace, like a APX900 so this is a phony flash! Also the tag don’t look right, some of the fronts look off, not by a lot but off if you know what to look for, also FDNY tone set is only for FDNY, that alone tips off the bogus flash, let alone the whoa out flash, look close people and learn!!!!

We have 4 fire departments around me that order radios with the FDNY tone set (about 250 APX6000XEs)
They get it for the RX tone when an emergency button is pressed, The tone with the FDNY tone set is so crazy loud and demands attention before you go deaf.
So it is a feature that is allowed in radios other than FDNY

 

[MTS2000des]

How do these people end up with 100% feedback? Do they just pay people off if they want to squawk?

The whackers and cosplay customers, as well as those who don't know they are overpaying for essentially a used radio with no vetted provenance, get what they pay for. As far as Ebay is concerned, that is all they care about: customer doesn't file "not as described" claim and they get their FVFs and listing fees, and the cycle continues.

It's up to the buyers in the wild, wild west of regulation free, consequence free USA to do their research. Bottom line: if it doesn't come from MSI direct or an authorized dealer like Bearcom, it's provenance cannot and should not be trusted. Surely should not be used in IDLH environments but hey, what do I know.