New Jersey Interoperability Communication System (NJICS)

[Highpockets]

Steve:
I picked up traffic on it today on Maintenance TG 3669 and a silver alert on TG 3623.

I listened today for a while, heard nothing. I get traffic on the regular CC I have for that system (Site 103 - 770.94375) and it's hard to believe it's not listed in the database closer to Toms River, good signal strength with a 396XT stock antenna.

 

[Highpockets]

Here is the Pro96Com on the site I usually listen to in Toms River:

FileVersion:7
-TowerInfo
#This section is here for information only. With the exception
#of the Call Sign(s), This data is not Read back into the program at all.
System ID : 39A
System Name :
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 103
Tower Number (Hex) : T0103
Tower Description : (null)
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Wed Jan 4 20:44:37 2012
-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.00625,1
01,762.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.00625,1
02,851.01250,0.01250,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
03,762.00625,0.01250,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"01-1430","c",770.94375,"01-1430",800.94375,0,0
"01-1890","ad",773.81875,"01-1890",803.81875,0,0
"01-1930","a",774.06875,"00-0000",851.00625,1,0
"01-1974","a",774.34375,"00-0000",851.00625,1,0
-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency,Tower Name
101,"T0101",39a,"01-2044",774.78125,""
102,"T0102",39a,"01-1892",773.83125,""
104,"T0104",39a,"01-1230",769.69375,""
123,"T0117",39a,"01-1190",769.44375,""
136,"T0124",39a,"01-1388",770.68125,""

 

[W2GLD]

Picking this up in the Toms River area.

FileVersion:7
-TowerInfo
#This section is here for information only. With the exception
#of the Call Sign(s), This data is not Read back into the program at all.
System ID : 39A
System Name :
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 134
Tower Number (Hex) : T0122
Tower Description : (null)
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Tue Jan 3 13:54:03 2012
-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.00625,1
01,762.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.00625,1
02,851.01250,0.01250,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
03,762.00625,0.01250,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequence(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"01-1770","a",773.06875,"01-1770",803.06875,0,0
"01-1810","c",773.31875,"01-1810",803.31875,0,0
"01-1928","a",774.05625,"01-1928",804.05625,0,0
"01-1972","a",774.33125,"01-1972",804.33125,0,0
-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency,Tower Name
103,"T0103",39a,"01-1430",770.94375,""
123,"T0117",39a,"01-1190",769.44375,""

Ran Pro96Com only a few minutes, have heard no traffic on this, so far.

Did you take notice of the NAC used at this site? Also, what were your GPS coordinates where you received the strongest signal? Finally, if it's possible when you run Pro96Com, please allow it to run on a site for at least 30-60 minutes in order to allow additional information to populate in the report.

Thanks for the submission.

 

[Highpockets]

Did you take notice of the NAC used at this site? Also, what were your GPS coordinates where you received the strongest signal? Finally, if it's possible when you run Pro96Com, please allow it to run on a site for at least 30-60 minutes in order to allow additional information to populate in the report.

Thanks for the submission.

To be honest I haven't fooled with this new system yet, I only ran Pro96Com on it because I found that CC while searching. When I get time I'll fool with it more and post my findings. I run Trunk88 on that scanner on the SP system most of the time.

 

[elias1988]

I'll really be surprised if 134 is located in Ocean County,it comes it like total crap here...I'm sticking with 103.

 

[Highpockets]

I'll really be surprised if 134 is located in Ocean County,it comes it like total crap here...I'm sticking with 103.

Me too, I just can't believe 103 is where they say it is.

 

[W2GLD]

Me too, I just can't believe 103 is where they say it is.

Keep in mind that site numbers may be changing around since this system is still being rolled out. There are many more sites that are not on the air just yet so everything is subject to change. One reason we're trying to stay on top of it and keep the database organized and accurate. The best way to do this is to have listeners submit their Pro96Com logs with their GPS coordinates where the tower is best received. In addition, please include the NAC reported from the site which is only display on the GRE PSR-500/600/800 or Radio Shack Pro-106/197 scanners.

Any information submitted would be helpful in building this system out and insuring database accuracy. Almost all of the 700 sites are co-located with their 800 counterparts, but it's possibly there are some variables as well.

 

[DJ88]

I'll really be surprised if 134 is located in Ocean County,it comes it like total crap here...I'm sticking with 103.

Which Site 134 are you referring to? The original one that was in the database or the new one that's there now, the one that contains the fequency info from Steve's post #339? The reason I ask is because I couldn't get the old one at all here in Brick but I get the new one 5 bars and the audio is clear as a bell.

 

[MARTY187]

You'll be able to here some of the radio traffic on this system but not all without a PSR-800, which directly handles the x2-TDMA systems. For DOT units, you'll be fine for sometime to come as they are all FDMA exclusively. As for the law enforcement groups that will be joining this system, most will eventually be TDMA but may start out in the traditional FDMA format until radios are replaced statewide. The important groups such as executive protection, attorney general, etc will ALL be TDMA with full encryption...

Go ahead and enjoy the system for the DOT and various statewide services, but do not expect law enforcement or other public safety agencies for long. Eventually, almost all of New Jersey will be full-time encrypted...

Thanks for the info

 

[elias1988]

The current one.This site may be located in Wall or Telegraph Hill from what I heard the radio techs say over the radio.

It seems the signal is a bit stronger now and is varying.4 bars at the moment. I'm noticing 134 is transmitting the FCC callsign on a frequency of 770.45625 (which is not in the database) while 103 still has the change me one...

FileVersion:7
-TowerInfo
#This section is here for information only. With the exception
#of the Call Sign(s), This data is not Read back into the program at all.
System ID : 39A
System Name : New Jersey Public Safety Interoperability Communications (PSIC) Network
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 134
Tower Number (Hex) : T0122
Tower Description : (null)
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Call Sign(s) : CHANGEME WTPZ794
Timestamp : Wed Jan 4 23:15:50 2012

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.00625,1
01,762.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.00625,1
02,851.01250,0.01250,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
03,762.00625,0.01250,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"01-1352","i",770.45625,"01-1352",800.45625,0,1
"01-1770","a",773.06875,"01-1770",803.06875,0,0
"01-1810","c",773.31875,"01-1810",803.31875,0,0
"01-1928","a",774.05625,"01-1928",804.05625,0,0
"01-1972","a",774.33125,"01-1972",804.33125,0,0

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency,Tower Name
103,"T0103",39a,"01-1430",770.94375,"Bordentown"
123,"T0117",39a,"01-1190",769.44375,""

Which Site 134 are you referring to? The original one that was in the database or the new one that's there now, the one that contains the fequency info from Steve's post #339? The reason I ask is because I couldn't get the old one at all here in Brick but I get the new one 5 bars and the audio is clear as a bell.

 

[GM]

Some more data being displayed on my PSR 500:

770.94375 N393 S003 Bordentown (100% confirmed)
769.44375 N390 S023 Holmdel (Telegraph Hill) (100% confirmed)
773.31875 N394 S034 Wall (100% confirmed)
770.68125 N390 S036 signal strong along I-295 in Bordentown area (I'm suspecting this may be Millstone or Camden site)
Note: Princeton site not on-line yet.

Keep in mind that I believe the PSR scanners show the sites with a "0" in front, while the Uniden scanners have a "1" in front. Thus, site 034 on a PSR scanner may be 134 on a Uniden. Would this be correct? That is what I have noticed, but don't have a Uniden to prove that (except a BC296D). Also, the Control Channels are subject to change as this system progresses along.

 

[W2GLD]

Here is a link to some details about these new Motorola systems.

http://www.motorola.com/web/Business/_Images/_Static%20Files/ASTRO_25_TDMA_Solution_Brief_304%20FINAL.pdf

 

[W2GLD]

Some more data being displayed on my PSR 500:

770.94375 N393 S003 Bordentown (100% confirmed)
769.44375 N390 S023 Holmdel (Telegraph Hill) (100% confirmed)
773.31875 N394 S034 Wall (100% confirmed)
770.68125 N390 S036 signal strong along I-295 in Bordentown area (I'm suspecting this may be Millstone or Camden site)
Note: Princeton site not on-line yet.

Keep in mind that I believe the PSR scanners show the sites with a "0" in front, while the Uniden scanners have a "1" in front. Thus, site 034 on a PSR scanner may be 134 on a Uniden. Would this be correct? That is what I have noticed, but don't have a Uniden to prove that (except a BC296D). Also, the Control Channels are subject to change as this system progresses along.

The GRE/Radio Shack scanner do not indicate which RFSS site each tower is associated with; however, the Uniden's are smart enough to gather that information from the control channel on their own. There are trade-off's to each of these scanners thus why I own at least one of each in order to aid in cross-referencing information.

 

[elias1988]

Any idea if and when a site will go up at the Toms River DOT yard tower?? I'm starting to have trouble with 103. audio is barely readable....

 

[GM]

770.95625 N390 S022 Ringwood (100% confirmed)
769.65625 N390 S033 Randolph (100% confirmed)

More to follow as I come across them.

 

[W2GLD]

770.95625 N390 S022 Ringwood (100% confirmed)
769.65625 N390 S033 Randolph (100% confirmed)

More to follow as I come across them.

Actually, site 122 is Ramapo; however you are dead on for site 133, which is Randolph. Can you send me any Pro96Com data for these sites by chance?

 

[Highpockets]

Wall is in Monmouth County.

 

[GTR8000]

Actually, site 122 is Ramapo

Since when is there a jurisdiction named "Ramapo" in NJ? Ramapo is a town in Rockland County, not Passaic County. The site really should be listed as "Ringwood", as GM correctly pointed out.

 

[GM]

I don't have access to any of the fancy computer programs, nor do I have an interest in obtaining them. All I'm able to do is to drive to each of the State Police Tower sites, as listed in the FCC database and the IR sites listed on the database page, and when I get within a quarter-mile of the tower, I take the antenna off of my PSR 500, and then get the signal strength as 4-6 bars to confirm the site # and freq. control channel. I figure that by nailing down the site locations with the freq. displayed at the time, those with the proper "toys" and decoder programs can pull that info from the towers at a greater range and post it up to the database and forums. As I have more time off this month, I will visit the other sites thoughout the state, and post my results for others to cross-verify. I just hope that my info benefits the rest of the scanning community to helping map out the TRS...

As far as the "Ramapo" site goes, it is actually Ringwood, but is next to Ramapo Mtn. State Forest, and so when I was originally driving around, I listed that as possibly being on the same tower location as the DEP Channel 1 & 3 VHF Ramapo Repeater (of which I still can't find the FCC license for). I can also state an inaccuracy in that the "Netcong" 700 MHz site is actually Roxbury, but is located at the Netcong State Police barracks. (My error for listing it that way). As I go on to list the site numbers I find at the towers, I will use the FCC designated location to clarify any confusion.

But while we are on this subject, is the West Orange Site (#001 or 101) actually broadcast in West Orange, or is it the Montclair site (since they are so close together, and I don't see a listing for West Orange in the FCC database, only for Montclair)?

 

[Highpockets]

I don't have access to any of the fancy computer programs, nor do I have an interest in obtaining them. All I'm able to do is to drive to each of the State Police Tower sites, as listed in the FCC database and the IR sites listed on the database page, and when I get within a quarter-mile of the tower, I take the antenna off of my PSR 500, and then get the signal strength as 4-6 bars to confirm the site # and freq. control channel. I figure that by nailing down the site locations with the freq. displayed at the time, those with the proper "toys" and decoder programs can pull that info from the towers at a greater range and post it up to the database and forums. As I have more time off this month, I will visit the other sites thoughout the state, and post my results for others to cross-verify. I just hope that my info benefits the rest of the scanning community to helping map out the TRS...

As far as the "Ramapo" site goes, it is actually Ringwood, but is next to Ramapo Mtn. State Forest, and so when I was originally driving around, I listed that as possibly being on the same tower location as the DEP Channel 1 & 3 VHF Ramapo Repeater (of which I still can't find the FCC license for). I can also state an inaccuracy in that the "Netcong" 700 MHz site is actually Roxbury, but is located at the Netcong State Police barracks. (My error for listing it that way). As I go on the list the site numbers I find at the towers, I will use the FCC designated location to clarify any confusion.

But while we are on this subject, is the West Orange Site (#001 or 101) actually broadcast in West Orange, or is it the Montclair site (since they are so close together, and I don't see a listing for West Orange in the FCC database, only for Montclair)?

I for one appreciate any member who is willing to put time and effort into finding correct info to help others in the NJ Forum/Database.

Thanks, and keep up the good work!