New MoCo Traffic Speed cam being erected..
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ScanManQSL
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Thanks for the heads up!!!!
RE: New MoCo Speed Cam
no prob.. As of yesterday, they had the 3 poles up ready to mount the camera gear but not the housing for the cam storage .. they should be done within this next week i'd say... Two poles angled differently with lighting and one for radar/picture taking(money taking) and the kicker is they lowered the speed limit from 40mph to 35mph to meet the criteria for speed cams
for a text description.. it's located between the intersection of Fernwood Rd. / Democracy Blvd. and just about near Rockledge Dr. / Democracy headed towards Wildwood Shopping Center and Giant Food.. It's on the right-hand side.. I guess all those Safe-Speed vans ticketing people.. they decided to install a perm cam...
blah!!!!
jay
no prob.. As of yesterday, they had the 3 poles up ready to mount the camera gear but not the housing for the cam storage .. they should be done within this next week i'd say... Two poles angled differently with lighting and one for radar/picture taking(money taking) and the kicker is they lowered the speed limit from 40mph to 35mph to meet the criteria for speed cams
for a text description.. it's located between the intersection of Fernwood Rd. / Democracy Blvd. and just about near Rockledge Dr. / Democracy headed towards Wildwood Shopping Center and Giant Food.. It's on the right-hand side.. I guess all those Safe-Speed vans ticketing people.. they decided to install a perm cam...
blah!!!!
jay
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ScanManQSL
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The speed camera van normally hides behind WJ's football field / stadium bleachers. I wonder why the county did not install the cameras over by the library. There are always students walking across the street just to get to the library at any time during the school day. Go figure....
yeah, I haven't seen the van's there in awhile. they must have been surveying and found that to be the most appropriate place. Exactly where people get off of I-270 and are still in speed mode..
and yes I was aware that I used erected on purpose to see how mature this group was heh
jay
jparks29
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RE: Speed Cam
Regarding the speed cam being put up on Democracy Blvd. Headed towards Old Georgetown Rd., I just noticed them putting up another one across the street on the Walter Johnson side headed towards I-270..
Sigh..
It will most likely appear on the counties website of the locations of cameras..
Jay
Regarding the speed cam being put up on Democracy Blvd. Headed towards Old Georgetown Rd., I just noticed them putting up another one across the street on the Walter Johnson side headed towards I-270..
Sigh..
It will most likely appear on the counties website of the locations of cameras..
Jay
suzukirider
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the cams are being put up in BOTH directions of democracy blvd on that block.
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Passing them today, the cameras are all set up.. bewaare =p
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my late post...
That would be a better way of stating it. Also noticed they cover all three lanes.. And with that I don't think I have anything else to add.
The end.
my late post...
That would be a better way of stating it. Also noticed they cover all three lanes.. And with that I don't think I have anything else to add.
The end.
Below are the locations for the new speed cameras in Montgomery County
> for you viewing pleasure.
>
> Some are not yet operational, but will be soon.
>
> BETHESDA
> 6400 block of DEMOCRACY BLVD (Eastbound & Westbound)
> 6100 block of WILSON LN (Westbound)
> 6410 block of WILSON LN (Eastbound)
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> BROOKVILLE
> 19600 block of GEORGIA AVE (Northbound)
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> DAMASCUS
> 27000 block of RIDGE RD (Southbound)
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> GAITHERBURG
> 1030 block of QUINCE ORCHARD RD (Southbound)
> 13600 block of DARNSETOWN RD (Westbound)
>
> GERMANTOWN
> 14200 block of DARNSETOWN RD (Eastbound)
> 14400 block of SCHAEFFER RD (Eastbound))
> 14500 block of SCHAEFFER RD (Westbound))
> 15531 block of GERMANTOWN RD (Northbound)
> 15700 block of GERMANTOWN RD (Southbound)
>
> POTOMAC
> 8834 block of TUCKERMAN LN (Eastbound)
> 8700 block of TUCKERMAN LN (Westbound)
> 9800 block of RIVER RD (Westbound)
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> SILVER SPRING
> 9200 block of BROOKVILLE RD (Northbound))
> 9300 bloc k of BROOKVILLE RD (Southbound))
>
>
> for you viewing pleasure.
>
> Some are not yet operational, but will be soon.
>
> BETHESDA
> 6400 block of DEMOCRACY BLVD (Eastbound & Westbound)
> 6100 block of WILSON LN (Westbound)
> 6410 block of WILSON LN (Eastbound)
>
> BROOKVILLE
> 19600 block of GEORGIA AVE (Northbound)
>
> DAMASCUS
> 27000 block of RIDGE RD (Southbound)
>
> GAITHERBURG
> 1030 block of QUINCE ORCHARD RD (Southbound)
> 13600 block of DARNSETOWN RD (Westbound)
>
> GERMANTOWN
> 14200 block of DARNSETOWN RD (Eastbound)
> 14400 block of SCHAEFFER RD (Eastbound))
> 14500 block of SCHAEFFER RD (Westbound))
> 15531 block of GERMANTOWN RD (Northbound)
> 15700 block of GERMANTOWN RD (Southbound)
>
> POTOMAC
> 8834 block of TUCKERMAN LN (Eastbound)
> 8700 block of TUCKERMAN LN (Westbound)
> 9800 block of RIVER RD (Westbound)
>
> SILVER SPRING
> 9200 block of BROOKVILLE RD (Northbound))
> 9300 bloc k of BROOKVILLE RD (Southbound))
>
>
Starting January 5, 14 new traffic cameras will patrol roads in Rockville, Maryland. The cameras had been giving out warnings to drivers who go 11 miles an hour or more over the posted speed limit. Beginning Monday, there are no more warnings; rather drivers will receive $40 citations in the mail.
Police began posting speed cameras in Rockville in March, 2007. The department claims the cameras are a success. "Since the program started, we've seen a decrease in violator speeds, we've seen a decrease in the percent of violations, and a decrease in the number of accidents," said Rockville Police Capt. Bob Rappoport. The new camera locations are based on speed studies and neighborhood complaints.
NEW CAMERA LOCATIONS
Glenora Lane
Hurley Avenue
Gerard Street
Dunster Road
Sunrise Drive
Cabin John Parkway
West Edmonston Drive
Edmonston Drive
Grandin Avenue
Broadwood Drive
Ardennes Avenue
Fallsgrove Drive
Mannakee Street
Martins Lane
Police began posting speed cameras in Rockville in March, 2007. The department claims the cameras are a success. "Since the program started, we've seen a decrease in violator speeds, we've seen a decrease in the percent of violations, and a decrease in the number of accidents," said Rockville Police Capt. Bob Rappoport. The new camera locations are based on speed studies and neighborhood complaints.
NEW CAMERA LOCATIONS
Glenora Lane
Hurley Avenue
Gerard Street
Dunster Road
Sunrise Drive
Cabin John Parkway
West Edmonston Drive
Edmonston Drive
Grandin Avenue
Broadwood Drive
Ardennes Avenue
Fallsgrove Drive
Mannakee Street
Martins Lane
bigbluemsp
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1) Too big brother
2) Takes away the traditional Traffic Cop's job
3) Not legal in my state THANK GOD..
I feel sorry for all of you there.
2) Takes away the traditional Traffic Cop's job
3) Not legal in my state THANK GOD..
I feel sorry for all of you there.
Justification for Speedcam and ECM towards
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Lets the journey begin...
I'd like to state that I have personally been involved with covert studies of red light runners for the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) circa 1994-5.
A bit of history...
As all (or many) of us know, DC implemented their red light cams (and I think VA shortly after?) when it was still illegal under MD law. After awhile, it came up in The MD House and was argued over the implementation (e.g. threshold, zones, etc). Reference http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/03/21/ST2008032100361.html
Traffic Related:
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Maryland Laws & regulations summary:
http://www.iihs.org/laws/StateLaws.aspx?StateAbbr=MD
Direct link to 'Automated enforcement laws' as posted by the IHHS for ALL states
http://www.iihs.org/laws/automated_enforcement.aspx
Thoughts...
For one, where are these statistics coming from? I know from driving that people right away notice the cams and slow down just before them and speed up upon passing them. That could be a statistic according to the statement commented above.
Second, I don't know if this is just a coincidence or not but they lowered the speed limit from 40mph to 35mph right before the cameras went up on Democracy Blvd. This may or may not have to do with their traffic survey or was to meet the criteria of having 35mph limit in a school zone to meet it. My memory is a little fuzzy but I think I recall one of the conditions was such that it had to be 35mph. The House was very divided on the issue.
Third, I can see in some cases, accidents could occur because of these cameras. I've witnessed some pretty dicey behavior around these cams. Sometimes people forget about them, and shortly thereafter remember, then hitting the breaks and other such actions. These could cause erratic traffic patterns.
ECM:
With GPS technology becoming commonplace in most cars, it's become easily possible to grab the list of traps, red light cams, etc. and have them warn you at a set distance ahead of time. This is nothing new but it's becoming easier and easier to have "other" eyes watching out for you. Anything from real-time accidents re-routes .. you name it.
It's the way of the world. Someone comes out with a technology and there's always someone who will reverse engineer it.
Jay
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Corrections and comments always welcome.
--[SNiP]---
--[SNiP]---
Lets the journey begin...
I'd like to state that I have personally been involved with covert studies of red light runners for the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) circa 1994-5.
A bit of history...
As all (or many) of us know, DC implemented their red light cams (and I think VA shortly after?) when it was still illegal under MD law. After awhile, it came up in The MD House and was argued over the implementation (e.g. threshold, zones, etc). Reference http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/03/21/ST2008032100361.html
Traffic Related:
----------------------- ----- -- -
Maryland Laws & regulations summary:
http://www.iihs.org/laws/StateLaws.aspx?StateAbbr=MD
Direct link to 'Automated enforcement laws' as posted by the IHHS for ALL states
http://www.iihs.org/laws/automated_enforcement.aspx
Thoughts...
For one, where are these statistics coming from? I know from driving that people right away notice the cams and slow down just before them and speed up upon passing them. That could be a statistic according to the statement commented above.
Second, I don't know if this is just a coincidence or not but they lowered the speed limit from 40mph to 35mph right before the cameras went up on Democracy Blvd. This may or may not have to do with their traffic survey or was to meet the criteria of having 35mph limit in a school zone to meet it. My memory is a little fuzzy but I think I recall one of the conditions was such that it had to be 35mph. The House was very divided on the issue.
Third, I can see in some cases, accidents could occur because of these cameras. I've witnessed some pretty dicey behavior around these cams. Sometimes people forget about them, and shortly thereafter remember, then hitting the breaks and other such actions. These could cause erratic traffic patterns.
ECM:
With GPS technology becoming commonplace in most cars, it's become easily possible to grab the list of traps, red light cams, etc. and have them warn you at a set distance ahead of time. This is nothing new but it's becoming easier and easier to have "other" eyes watching out for you. Anything from real-time accidents re-routes .. you name it.
It's the way of the world. Someone comes out with a technology and there's always someone who will reverse engineer it.
Jay
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Corrections and comments always welcome.
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