New Ocean County T/G

[eclipse3256]

I was montioring the bad accident this afternoon in bayille by the high school and heard this talk group 963 it was a broadcast from the radio room of all the agencies working the accident .. monoc,north star and south star station 20, berkeley pd , ems 1 were all able to be heard on this talkgroup ... talked to Aron at county radio this afternoon and he said this is a link t/g to monitor a major incident

 

[elias1988]

WOW,thanks for the info;i was listening to the incident but never seen the talkgroup come up.

 

[Joseph11]

963 isn't a valid decimal (Uniden format) talkgroup. Are you giving it to us in Motorola's format (convert from hex to decimal, multiply by 16 to go from Motorola to decimal)? If so, is the talkgroup in decimal 38448? Thanks.

 

[ctrabs74]

I have picked up TGs on other Moto systems (Phila, MontCo, etc) which were 3 digits higher than an assigned TG number. On my 396, with the Philadelphia system, I have "Set Status Bit" set to "Yes" and I pick up TGs such as "371" or "373" (I don't have it written in front of me), which are 3-5 digits higher than 368, which is PPD J-Band. Sounds like OCo TG 963 may be an off-shoot of TG 960, which is listed as an OCoSD Radio Maintenance group.

Here's a link to a thread in the Maryland forums, which brings up the same issue re: TG numbers outside of the normal Moto TG format. This thread focuses on Anne Arundel County (Annapolis/BWI area):

http://www.radioreference.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22800

It's explained a hell of a lot better than I can ever explain it...

 

[BLAZER99]

When you're picking up those TGs that are 3 to 5 higher with your Set Status Bit set to Yes, are they actually IDs that you have programmed or are you getting them with your scanner set to ID Search Mode ?

 

[ctrabs74]

When you're picking up those TGs that are 3 to 5 higher with your Set Status Bit set to Yes, are they actually IDs that you have programmed or are you getting them with your scanner set to ID Search Mode ?

This is when my scanner is set to ID Search mode.

 

[mondaro]

On a Uniden 396 Scanner from Uniden which talk group should I program.
for this new fleet, Thanks.

Tony

 

[BLAZER99]

Tony

I went to the RR link that crabs74 posted, and from what I can gather from what Llewlyn posted on that thread, if you have the Status Bit set for "on" or "Yes" (don't know exactly how it reads on the 396), you can program Talk Group 936 and you should receive it okay. He used a different TG example, I think 1616 and 1618, but same principle. I had to read it a few times, but that's what I got out of it. Maybe you can check it out and see if you come up with the same thing. I'm going to put the Status bit "ON' on my 785D and program both 936 and 38448 and see what happens. It may be a while before we hear anything on it though, because as crabs said, it's only used for major incidents. I don't want to wish anybody any bad luck, but hopefully there will be a major incident soon and we can clear this up. Anyway, read that post by Llewelyn and let me know what you get out of it.

 

[Joseph11]

I just checked my MTrunker32 logs from when the incident in Berkeley happened and no new talkgroups were logged.

 

[elk2370bruce]

From the above, it would appear that this entire thread was a waste of space. Lots of guess work of how radios may work and no facts or confirmation that extend everyone's body of knowledge. All we really have is a "Gee, did you hear...." that is useless after the event is over and an elevated (and over-inflated)post count.

 

[fineshot1]

Well said elk2370bruce. If everyone would go to the RR wicki on Moto Type II trunk systems and read up its explains basicly how patched talk groups function - see the ID+3. It was apparently two talk groups that were patched for interop purposes. Nothing to get excited about......fineshot1

 

[BLAZER99]

Here's the Wiki link that explains everything:

http://www.radioreference.com/wiki/index.php/Motorola_Type_II

 

[elk2370bruce]

As the Governator of Kalifornia said so well, "Danke Mein Herren. Clarity ubr alles" Vindication is ours for the taking if we apply the basic skills of reading and critical thinking. Those WIKI files are rather well written and always useful during the occassional brainfart we all are subject to.

 

[bigreddawg76]

I received this in an email from Aaron:

"PLEASE post a reply asking not to quote specific operator names while talking here as yes it COULD get me or them into trouble with Sheriff Department Managment. ESPECIALLY when I do not remember speaking with anyone about this particular call.

With that in mind, the talk group that is in discussion was probably the seldom used "EMS Cordinator" talk group as they were activated for this call and Car23 signed on for assistance. Then, the channels were probably multi-selected so that when the general announcement for a helicopter went out, it was done all at once.

All of the above can be copied and posted as there are no secrets that I am giving out here. But please keep in mind that when it comes to "official radio room buisiness", that I can not and will not post or discuss radio room operations with anyone unless I have official permision.

Also, I appreciate being called someone's favorite dispatcher. Thank you and I'll try to keep up the good job.

See you on the radio,

Aaron"