New OKC 802.11 system?

[N5MRK]

Ok, so i was bored last night and decided to whip the old laptop and go wardriving again. (which is very fun and entertaining if you have nothing to do and want to waste gas ) I was interested to know what the supposed okc 802.11(b,g,or a... dont know) system looked like. Well, i picked up several suspicious networks that could/couldn't be the system. Here are the suspicious entries:

The first one i picked up that caught my eye was one called ACGUPEASTSECTOR. For some reason kismet did not log the gps coordinates. So i cant really tell you where i found them. I remember picking one up around i-35 and 23rd. (i think) There's also another one called ACGUPSOUTHSECTOR. Hmmm....

I also picked up about 20 DAAOKC networks. All of those, however, were located around I-40 near OSUOKC. (around i44)

Anyways, if anyone has any ideas on what this new system is going to be called, i'd love to know!

Btw, here is a map of some of the ap's i picked up last night. This was just on main highways too.

http://www.k5eok.org/mattrk/wardriving/111604.jpg

Click for a bigger pic.

Also, for everyone's info, here is a map that Daniel KD5WUV and myself created during our 2002 - 2003 winter wardriving session. Its a yearly thing. Last year we had technical difficulties. haha. This year should be fun though. If anyone wants to help out, let us know. We usually go out in the evenings. We also do a very thourough grid pattern. We've driven every street in Edmond. (Yes, ever street. as of 2003. )

http://www.k5eok.org/mattrk/wardriving/City.jpg

Red = Encrypted networks
Green = Unencrypted networks

-Matt

 

[mam1081]

Sounds like fun...I've done it before in other cities - what kind of card and antenna are you using? I'm sure you might be able to cut down on some of the "little" streets if you happen to have an awesome antenna If I get a set-up, I'll let y'all know.

The only thing I've read about the OKC system is that it'll be 802.11b, encrypted (I would hope so!), and that the officers will VPN into their records server. Supposedly there is supposed to be like 800 base sites and 600 mobile sites (something I read a while back in the paper). With that many sites, they should have pretty good coverage, and they should be relatively easy to find.

 

[N5MRK]

The images are down. Should be back up shortly.

-Matt

 

[mam1081]

OKC TROPOS 802.11b WiFi System

I found this while browsing online- they are going to link up their Tropos WiFi system with the new EDACS - sounds nifty!

http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=64192

Oklahoma City Goes Mesh
12.07.04

BETHLEHEM, Pa. -- Padcom, Inc., a leader in wireless connectivity for continuous remote access to critical information, today announced a joint marketing agreement with Tropos Networks, the leading supplier of equipment used to build metro-scale Wi-Fi networks, to provide a metro-scale Wi-Fi and wide area network solution managed by seamless network connectivity. The two companies also announced that they have been awarded sub-contracts through Affiliated Computer Services, Inc., (ACS), a premier provider of business process and information technology outsourcing solutions, to deploy key elements of a wireless data system for The City of Oklahoma City, OK. The system will enable broadband wireless access and seamless roaming between a Tropos Wi-Fi network and a M/A-COM EDACS wide area network.

"Secure access to information in the field is critical to the Oklahoma City Police and Fire Departments," said Kerry Wagnon, Program Director, Public Safety Capital Project Office. "Meeting the connectivity needs of over 850 vehicles in a 620 square mile jurisdiction requires a wireless infrastructure that addresses speed and coverage while maintaining usability. Our new wireless data system will meet these needs by leveraging a Tropos mesh network to provide high-speed connectivity in our metro area, EDACS to provide a wide area coverage umbrella, and the PadcomR TotalRoamR software to help it all work together by letting officers and firefighters move between networks without losing their connection."

The PadcomR and Tropos implementations are part of a larger IT refresh for Oklahoma City Public Safety departments, for which ACS is the prime contractor and responsible for all integration and services. The goal is to increase access to information for Police and Fire Departments, providing enhanced mobile functionality for Computer-Aided Dispatch (CAD), field reporting, and records management systems. In order to support the need for coverage and throughput, Oklahoma City is migrating from a conventional radio data network to a Tropos mesh network, which will be seamlessly integrated with M/A-COM EDACS using the PadcomR TotalRoamR software to transparently manage movement between the two networks. With this solution, the Oklahoma City Police and Fire Departments will have broadband wireless access throughout the metro area, and enhanced wireless data coverage over approximately 1000 square miles throughout their jurisdiction and beyond.

"ACS is dedicated to meeting the diverse telecom and data needs of public safety agencies across the country. Often, that means choosing the right technology provider for every part of the system," said Al Landon, Vice President and Chief Information Officer, ACS. "For customers like Oklahoma City, who need a balance of coverage, speed, and integration for multiple data systems, ACS is pleased to integrate leading companies like PadcomR and Tropos whose best-of-breed offerings help build true end-to-end solutions for clients."

Oklahoma City is implementing Tropos Wi-Fi cells to form a wireless mesh network, dynamically routing traffic along the highest throughput path to a wired gateway, using a combination of city-owned fiber and fixed point-to-point wireless technology for the backhaul connections. Oklahoma City will leverage TotalRoamR Mobile Connectivity Suite(TM) (MCS) software to seamlessly integrate the Tropos network with EDACS, thereby enabling secure, continuous connections for officers and firefighters in the field. Additionally, TotalRoamR will allow agency IT personnel to specify the applications that will be routed through the Tropos network and those that should be sent over EDACS. As mobile workers move between the Tropos Wi-Fi and EDACS networks, TotalRoamR will manage their connections and enable the "push" of information, CAD, to patrol officers and firefighters.

"We believe that the implementation of an integrated solution of Tropos and PadcomR technology by Oklahoma City demonstrates the value of a combined wireless broadband and wide area network system," said Scott Stone, Chief Executive Officer, Padcom, Inc. "The agreement with Tropos combines two leading-edge technologies and allows both companies to target new customer opportunities that need the benefits of a mesh and wide area network solution with seamless remote access connectivity. Oklahoma City serves as an outstanding example of the benefits of this combined system."

 

[N5MRK]

Interesting. From what i've read it sounds like they are refereing to the EDACS system in terms of data. I thought EDACS was only a radio system. Are they planning on useing this radio system for data as well?

-Matt

 

[N_Jay]

Interesting. From what i've read it sounds like they are refereing to the EDACS system in terms of data. I thought EDACS was only a radio system. Are they planning on useing this radio system for data as well?

-Matt

EDACS will carry data at 9600 BPS raw rate.

 

[N5MRK]

ERGH!!! lol. I can see why they are implementing a wifi system. That would suck to transfer all thier data at that speed. Thanks for the info btw.

-Matt

 

[N_Jay]

ERGH!!! lol. I can see why they are implementing a wifi system. That would suck to transfer all thier data at that speed. Thanks for the info btw.

-Matt

Especially if you let a bunch of Byte Heads with no RF experiance design the application! :evil: :evil:

9600 works fine with well designed applications. :wink:

 

[foster_006]

just got a new card for the laptop and Earthmate w/Street Atlas '05 is in the mail! Should be here tomorrow!

I'm interested in helping out. May take me a little while to get used to my setup, but it'll be fun! Let me know the next time you plan on going out!

I found one in or near my apartment complex labeled "Netgear"... it's not mine but it is nice to know it's here!

 

[foster_006]

anyone want to go for a drive?!

 

[crayon]

I introduce foster_006 to netstumbler and look what happens .. he becomes this little wardriving ho!! Your totally out of control bro!!

What is it going to be like once we get your scanner box mounted??

yeee hawww .. j/k

If ya all have never been .. its pretty cool, check it out. No worries about foster_006 being weird. He is a normal kind of guy. Ugly, but normal.


-- btw foster .. the wife and I are going to MO for the weekend last minute thing ..

 

[foster_006]

SWEET!!!! Wave at Steak & Shake in Joplin as you drive by! I MISS IT!!!!

 

[N5MRK]

There is one of those in Edmond if you didn't know.

-Matt

 

[foster_006]

Yea, but there are no memories there! 8) :wink:

 

[markjm]

May I ask a stupid question? What is wardriving?

 

[foster_006]

May I ask a stupid question? What is wardriving?

Hey! Welcome to the group!

WarDriving is a collection of information and resources pertaining to the activity of driving around in a car searching and pinpointing the location of wireless networks in metropolitian areas.

It is quite fun, I might add!

 

[markjm]

What kind of equipment is used? I'm running around right now with a BCT-8 in the car.

 

[foster_006]

Laptop computer, wireless card, gps, and various software..

Scanners are good to have while wardriving... that's just my opinion.

 

[N5MRK]

Yea, you basically need a laptop/computer, an 802.11b wifi card, GPS for poltting the location of the network, and software that scans for the APs. I'd also recomend an external antenna as the internal antennas can be quite weak.

My setup consists of the following:
Compaq M700 Laptop running Slackare Linux
Dell Inspiron 8100 running windows xp
Orinoco 802.11b wifi card w/ external antenna jack
Garmin Etrex Legend GPS w/ serial out
GPS Splitter (home made)
and a Hyperlink Tech external magmount antenna.

Here is a diagram of my setup.

The wifi card is connected to the Compaq laptop. (Its a pcmcia card) I then run a piece of software called kismet. (http://www.kismetwireless.net)

I also wrote a little blog entry a few weeks ago about a wardriving expedition i went on. Have a read.
http://www.xanga.com/item.aspx?user=MattRK&tab=weblogs&uid=178292607

-Matt Keller