New (or undocumented) Triangle Communications 800 Mhz multicounty trunked system ?

[mtindor]

I saw FCC apps for six new Triangle Communications licenses (YM - 800 Mhz Trunked SMR). This made me curious. So I looked up all Triangle Communitions YM licenses and there were many more that have been around a while. All have analog / DMR emissions on them.

Wondering if there is an existing 800 Mhz trunked system out there that nobody has documented yet (or goes by a different name), or if this is new. Could be Cap+ / Con+ or DMR TIII, but I think Con+ is EOL and that the new site licenses at least would be for DMR T3 (likely Capacity Max since they are a Moto shop).

Google Map - includes licenses / freqs / links to pending applications and is showing 16 trunked sites in SEPA at present.

Mike

 

[u2brent]

There is at least one 800 mHz conventional DMR repeater active in Lancaster Co, it was formerly an undocumented LTR.

FCC Callsign WPCJ327 (Triangle Communications, Inc)

FCC Callsign WPCJ327 (Triangle Communications, Inc)

www.radioreference.com

Rawlinsville 860.4125 CC11 TG 100 & 200 It seems to be used by Triangle Techs exclusively thus far. (Which remains undocumented )

FCC Callsign WNAY658 (Triangle Communications, Inc)

FCC Callsign WNAY658 (Triangle Communications, Inc)

www.radioreference.com

Georgetown 854.7875 CC13 may be a part of it as well. (perhaps Networked DMR)

FCC Callsign WZV250 (Triangle Communications, Inc)

FCC Callsign WZV250 (Triangle Communications, Inc)

www.radioreference.com

New Holland 854.1375 CC6
York (Presumed CC4) FCC Callsign WNMD406 (Triangle Communications, Inc)
New Cumberland (Presumed CC7) FCC Callsign WPDK635 (Triangle Communications,Inc)
Penn Twp (Presumed CC2) FCC Callsign WNKM979 (Triangle Communications, Inc)
2 cents.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Oh boy oh boy! How I love trying to figure out new TRSes

 

[mtindor]

There is at least one 800 mHz conventional DMR repeater active in Lancaster Co, it was formerly an undocumented LTR.

FCC Callsign WPCJ327 (Triangle Communications, Inc)

FCC Callsign WPCJ327 (Triangle Communications, Inc)

www.radioreference.com

Rawlinsville 860.4125 CC11 TG 100 & 200 It seems to be used by Triangle Techs exclusively thus far.

FCC Callsign WNAY658 (Triangle Communications, Inc)

FCC Callsign WNAY658 (Triangle Communications, Inc)

www.radioreference.com

Georgetown 854.7875 CC13 may be a part of it as well. (perhaps Networked DMR)

FCC Callsign WZV250 (Triangle Communications, Inc)

FCC Callsign WZV250 (Triangle Communications, Inc)

www.radioreference.com

New Holland 854.1375 CC6
York (Presumed CC4) FCC Callsign WNMD406 (Triangle Communications, Inc)
New Cumberland (Presumed CC7) FCC Callsign WPDK635 (Triangle Communications,Inc)
Penn Twp (Presumed CC2) FCC Callsign WNKM979 (Triangle Communications, Inc)
2 cents.

Just like you make presumptions about the CCs (based upon MADRN), I'm presuming that if none of the sites are currently trunked, they likely wil be. There is just no reason for them to have 3-5 frequencies and then only be used conventionally (networked or not).

And depending upon who submitted any existing data and when, depending upon how they were monitoring it / what they were monitoring with, they may never know that it was a Cap+ / Con+ / DMR TIII system and could have just assumed it was conventional.

Anyway, I was throwing it out there because clearly they have submitted for a bunch of new site licenses with multiple frequencies -- making it pretty likely that it's going to be some sort of trunked DMR. And I'm presuming CAPMAX because CON+ is EOL or so I've heard. I don't know if Cap+ is though. And since they are a Moto shop, it would probably be a TIII CAPMAX system.

Anyway, you all do whatever you want with the info. A lot of those sites have been around for quite some time.

 

[u2brent]

I only presumed that because of what I've observed thus far and follows a definite pattern that is already known by Triangle through the CON+ and they seem to be continuing with that pattern, and it was definitely conventional DMR observed thus far, no mistake. If it changes... aah whatever.. The VHF & 460 DMR repeaters oddly enough follow the same scheme. FYI, CC 11, 13 & 6 are not presumed, but confirmed by myself to be in use. It's not a real big leap of faith to the presumed CC's. Blah, Blah, Blah..

 

[mtindor]

I only presumed that because of what I've observed thus far and follows a definite pattern that is already known by Triangle through the CON+ and they seem to be continuing with that pattern, and it was definitely conventional DMR observed thus far, no mistake. If it changes... aah whatever.. The VHF & 460 DMR repeaters oddly enough follow the same scheme. FYI, CC 11, 13 & 6 are not presumed, but confirmed by myself to be in use. It's not a real big leap of faith to the presumed CC's. Blah, Blah, Blah..

Ok. Are any of those three conventional DMR repeaters in the DB? I'm not seeing them, but then again I'm still having difficulty navigating the new database layout.

Nevermind. I see where you say that at least one of them is undocumented.

 

[u2brent]

Nope, They are not in the RRDB. They are just in my PRIVATE DB. Although someone did submit data for the 460's for Lanc Co. Thus far as noted previously, They have just been Techs talking, Not much worthy of a submission. IMHO

463.83750	468.83750	WQOS223	RM	CC 6 TG 5640 SL *	Agribusiness	Agribusiness	DMR	Business
463.83750	468.83750	WQOS223	RM	CC 6 TG 200 SL *	Agribusiness	Agribusiness	DMR	Business
463.83750	468.83750	WQOS223	BM	CC 6 TG 3899 SL *	FT Ch 1	Fisher and Thompson Ch1	DMR	Business
463.83750	468.83750	WQOS223	RM	CC 6 TG 3898 SL *	FT Ch 2	Fisher and Thompson Ch2	DMR	Business
463.83750	468.83750	WQOS223	RM	CC 6 TG 3900 SL *	FT Ops	Fisher and Thompson Operations	DMR	Business

 

[mtindor]

Nope, They are not in the RRDB. They are just in my PRIVATE DB. Although someone did submit data for the 460's for Lanc Co. Thus far as noted previously, They have just been Techs talking, Not much worthy of a submission.

463.83750	468.83750	WQOS223	RM	CC 6 TG 5640 SL *	Agribusiness	Agribusiness	DMR	Business
463.83750	468.83750	WQOS223	RM	CC 6 TG 200 SL *	Agribusiness	Agribusiness	DMR	Business
463.83750	468.83750	WQOS223	BM	CC 6 TG 3899 SL *	FT Ch 1	Fisher and Thompson Ch1	DMR	Business
463.83750	468.83750	WQOS223	RM	CC 6 TG 3898 SL *	FT Ch 2	Fisher and Thompson Ch2	DMR	Business
463.83750	468.83750	WQOS223	RM	CC 6 TG 3900 SL *	FT Ops	Fisher and Thompson Operations	DMR	Business

Thanks for totally derailing the thread.

 

[u2brent]

The progress is slow for sure.

Note: When a Color Code is confirmed it loses the ? following the virtual site numbers.
I'll get outta the way now. Let the smart ones carry on..